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To: Lewis John Mcgibbney , "general@incubator.apache.org" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="498176207-1764503219-1328199853=:66040" X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --498176207-1764503219-1328199853=:66040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Personally that's probably a wee bit too much=0Adetail other than to mentio= n anecdotally.=A0 If=0Athe person who is writing the report perceives=0Apro= blems with the technical aspects of the project,=0Awe certainly encourage t= hem to write about it.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A>________________________________=0A> = From: Lewis John Mcgibbney =0A>To: general@incub= ator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer =0A>Sent: Thursday, = February 2, 2012 11:22 AM=0A>Subject: Re: last release date in reports?=0A>= =0A>=0A>Hi Joe,=0A>=0A>I don't know if this is as fundamental as the 'last= release date' issue you raise, but it might be also advantageous to the bo= ard for (especially) podlings to mention whether trunk is broken or not. In= the past I've seen some podlings with trunk broken for some time and altho= ugh in some cases this might be something trivial, in other cases it can me= an that there is something more severe at play and the board may wish to kn= ow an accurate snapshot representation of the project when reporting is due= .=0A>This is just my personal opinion, and I know it is not paramount, but = it creates a layer of transparency which I think could really help mentors = as well as the Board to comment accordingly.=0A>=0A>Thanks=0A>=0A>Lewis=0A>= =0A>=0A>On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:=0A>=0A>I've looked over the reports so far for February=0A>>and a= m fairly impressed at the quality of them=0A>>compared to January's bunch.= =A0 OTOH one bit of information=0A>>I'd like to see given more attention is= a podling's=0A>>last release date, to see how they are progressing=0A>>tec= hnically as a community which focuses on producing=0A>>quality software sui= table for public consumption.=0A>>=0A>=0A>=0A>-- =0A>Lewis =0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> --498176207-1764503219-1328199853=:66040--