From general-return-34032-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Fri Feb 3 15:22:36 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B09E7984A for ; Fri, 3 Feb 2012 15:22:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 8352 invoked by uid 500); 3 Feb 2012 15:22:35 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 8167 invoked by uid 500); 3 Feb 2012 15:22:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 8159 invoked by uid 99); 3 Feb 2012 15:22:34 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:22:34 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of gstein@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.47 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.212.47] (HELO mail-vw0-f47.google.com) (209.85.212.47) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 03 Feb 2012 15:22:29 +0000 Received: by vbbff1 with SMTP id ff1so2691974vbb.6 for ; Fri, 03 Feb 2012 07:22:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=C65+W4y5AgP+RA3Bes5nwuk/rZSmvB5RSrNuzh4bVHM=; b=I7tfhUvUgkT1ZhzNQctMA7AI/Tr9J/pZZq3AGR4DAgp5sYHb4YB9TZ0K23hd4sdzSe Qu2XGFuh3Oyf6Oc8Z/e+iow/9SpW6mFhr1ML1yWgk4Y2UCIiEXb56dwAc+VYkUYkzu4W 6DYvR4Lllp3ZRJIWiVaASYUmm1qck5lYA8P5k= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.95.74 with SMTP id di10mr3677850vdb.46.1328282528943; Fri, 03 Feb 2012 07:22:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.181.4 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Feb 2012 07:22:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.181.4 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Feb 2012 07:22:08 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1328214068.89830.YahooMailNeo@web160906.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 10:22:08 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Time to vote the chair? From: Greg Stein To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f34064c8d4704b810e039 --20cf307f34064c8d4704b810e039 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Feb 2, 2012 11:20 PM, "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" < chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote: > > Hi Benson, > > I wouldn't have much problem with this, so long as I make it > clear that my intention isn't to remain in the position for longer than > one month, two months, whatever it takes to move towards > proposal/resolution and board recommendation to dissolve > the Incubator and the VP Incubator position, and to implement my > proposal. I realize there are INFRA impacts to this; and other nitty > gritty details -- I'm willing to help where I can with those and to facilitate > the others. I think it will be much longer than that. Incremental and reversible steps are most desirable. Thus, I would see the Board promoting just a few podlings to podling-TLP status, and see how that goes for a couple quarters. The Incubator would stick around during that test, continuing with the vast majority of podlings. Speaking as a Director, that would be my preferred approach. I obviously can't speak for the others, but I would argue against a total, immediate deconstruction. Cheers, -g --20cf307f34064c8d4704b810e039--