From general-return-34007-apmail-incubator-general-archive=incubator.apache.org@incubator.apache.org Fri Feb 3 05:54:48 2012 Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 76BB09F19 for ; Fri, 3 Feb 2012 05:54:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 36883 invoked by uid 500); 3 Feb 2012 05:54:44 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 36091 invoked by uid 500); 3 Feb 2012 05:54:33 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 36063 invoked by uid 99); 3 Feb 2012 05:54:25 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 03 Feb 2012 05:54:25 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [128.149.139.109] (HELO mail.jpl.nasa.gov) (128.149.139.109) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 03 Feb 2012 05:54:17 +0000 Received: from mail.jpl.nasa.gov (altvirehtstap02.jpl.nasa.gov [128.149.137.73]) by smtp.jpl.nasa.gov (Switch-3.4.3/Switch-3.4.3) with ESMTP id q135rrSs017062 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128 bits) verified NO); Thu, 2 Feb 2012 21:53:53 -0800 Received: from ALTPHYEMBEVSP20.RES.AD.JPL ([128.149.137.83]) by ALTVIREHTSTAP02.RES.AD.JPL ([128.149.137.73]) with mapi; Thu, 2 Feb 2012 21:53:52 -0800 From: "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" To: "William A. Rowe Jr." CC: "general@incubator.apache.org" Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2012 21:58:17 -0800 Subject: Re: Nomination of Chris Mattman for the IPMC Chair (was: Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair) Thread-Topic: Nomination of Chris Mattman for the IPMC Chair (was: Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair) Thread-Index: AcziODS4DQQgXrzcSDChTEb8KRrcOA== Message-ID: <193BC0C4-D070-4EDD-B335-4121AE37CDB7@jpl.nasa.gov> References: <27CE36D1-CB0C-4EA0-98D1-0A1EF7A6A903@jpl.nasa.gov> <4F2B727E.4010408@rowe-clan.net> In-Reply-To: <4F2B727E.4010408@rowe-clan.net> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Source-IP: altvirehtstap02.jpl.nasa.gov [128.149.137.73] X-Source-Sender: chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov X-AUTH: Authorized X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hey Bill, On Feb 2, 2012, at 9:37 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > On 2/2/2012 11:38 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: >>>=20 >>> However, please note that the re-org still has a position that is at le= ast >>> analogous. You would not be getting off so easily. ;-) >>=20 >> :) Nope, it doesn't actually. Please read the thread carefully. That is= =20 >> what is being suggested by Bill and by Greg, but I see room to convince >> them otherwise. I think they'll see the light.=20 >=20 > You don't need to convince me :) You would need to convince the board, > and I don't expect them to be receptive. I would rather go forward with > a VP, Project Incubation than to have the board dismiss the proposal out > of hand, if that's how they would have it. Well that's a good question isn't it.=20 A quick check of the current board: http://apache.org/foundation/board/ =95 Shane Curcuru =95 Doug Cutting (chairman) =95 Bertrand Delacretaz =95 Roy T. Fielding =95 Jim Jagielski =95 Brett Porter =95 Lawrence Rosen =95 Sam Ruby =95 Greg Stein A quick check of the Incubator PMC against current board membership: http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#incubator-pmc Shane [check] Doug [check] Roy [no] Jim [check] Brett [check] Larry [no] Sam [check] Greg [check] So that's 7 of 9 board members that are on the Incubator PMC, and a good chance they are here now, and reading this. What do Board members think? IPMC hats on? Great. Board=20 hats on? Great too. Would be great to get opinions now=20 rather than have to wait.=20 And to be honest, even if you (Bill) or the board folks think that there should be an Incubation VP, are you willing to at least try it my way, and then if all hell breaks loose, simply add the role in 6 months (or sooner, if required?) IOW, we accept my proposal asi-is. Then in 6 months, we'll see how it's working out, and I'll tell you what,=20 if we need an Incubation VP then, I'll be all for it, and even willing to s= ign=20 up for it. Cheers, Chris ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Chris Mattmann, Ph.D. Senior Computer Scientist NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246 Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org