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From Mohammad Nour El-Din <nour.moham...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop from Apache Incubator
Date Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:06:14 GMT
Hi Matt...

   Allow me to disagree with you :), there is no confusion but the problem
is that most of the people click on reply to all which includes
general@address by mistake most probably they don notice it.

On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) <
chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:

> Hi Arvind,
>
> Okey dok, just thought if you were going to cut down on confusion, it might
> make sense to *not* include general@, regardless of the guidelines :)
> Otherwise,
> some IPMC person like me might think (regardless of what you put in your
> email)
> that you are intending it as a VOTE for the IPMC.
>
> That's why they are, guidelines, but I don't think they are perfect.
>
> Anyhoo, I'll just ignore the VOTE thread on general@, and assume that
> it's really for the Sqoop PPMC at this point.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
> //notes to self, maybe I should go update those guidelines, as they don't
> //make sense to me, but who doesn't have the energy to do so at this point.
>

I can look into that today or tomorrow :)


>
> On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:38 AM, Arvind Prabhakar wrote:
>
> > Thanks Chris for your feedback. Yes, this vote is only intended to be
> held
> > in the Sqoop community. However, according to the guide on graduation
> [2],
> > the guidance on community graduation vote explicitly suggests copying the
> > Incubator general list when the vote is proposed. Hence, I added the
> > general list in the cc of the vote mail.
> >
> > Also, I do state explicitly in the vote mail that if this community vote
> is
> > successful, we will draft a board resolution proposal and call it to vote
> > on the general Incubator list. When we do draft the board resolution
> > proposal it will have details about initial PMC.
> >
> > [2]
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-community-vote
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Arvind Prabhakar
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) <
> > chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Arvind,
> >>
> >> I would encourage removing another ambiguity that I saw -- I think you
> >> meant
> >> to only hold this on sqoop-dev, right? That's because by the time it
> gets
> >> to the
> >> IPMC, at least one thing I'm interested in is the proposed PMC, if there
> >> are
> >> 3 ASF members or not, etc., and that would be part of the resolution
> that
> >> you guys haven't drafted yet.
> >>
> >> If you hold this on general@, then before VOTE'ing I would like to see
> the
> >> proposed graduation resolution. There's a bunch of templates, here's the
> >> one
> >> that Lucy just used:
> >>
> >> http://wiki.apache.org/lucy/LucyCharter
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Chris
> >>
> >> On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Arvind Prabhakar wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I will have to cancel this vote thread due to a typo in the vote
> options
> >> in
> >>> my original mail below. Specifically, the option to reject the vote
> >>> is mentioned as +1 when it should be -1 instead. In order to make sure
> >> that
> >>> there is absolutely no ambiguity in the vote, I will send out a new
> vote
> >>> thread in a few minutes. My sincere apologies for the inconvenience.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Arvind Prabhakar
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Arvind Prabhakar <arvind@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> The Apache Sqoop project entered incubator in June of 2011. Since then
> >> we
> >>>> have added three new committers from diverse organizations and added
> two
> >>>> new PPMC members. The codebase of our product has steadily grown and
> we
> >>>> have made two releases following the ASF policies and guidelines.
> >> Thanks to
> >>>> the excellent mentorship we have received through this period, we have
> >>>> learnt to self-govern and grow our community using accepted Apache
> >>>> practices. Sqoop continues to attract interest from contributors and
> >> users
> >>>> from all across the world.
> >>>>
> >>>> Given these milestones, I strongly feel that Sqoop is ready to
> graduate
> >>>> from Incubator.
> >>>>
> >>>> The first step towards graduation is to vote as a community that Sqoop
> >> is
> >>>> ready to graduate. If the vote is successful, we will draft a board
> >>>> resolution proposal and call it to vote on the general Incubator list.
> >> The
> >>>> complete graduation process is described [1].
> >>>>
> >>>> Please cast your votes:
> >>>>
> >>>> [  ]  +1 Graduate Sqoop from Incubator
> >>>> [  ]  +0 Indifferent to graduation status of Sqoop
> >>>> [  ]  +1 Reject graduation of Sqoop from Incubator
> >>>>
> >>>> This vote will remain open for at least 72 hours from now.
> >>>>
> >>>> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Arvind Prabhakar
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> >> Senior Computer Scientist
> >> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> >> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> >> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> >> WWW:   http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> >> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> >> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>
> >>
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>
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> Senior Computer Scientist
> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> WWW:   http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
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- Mohammad Nour
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