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From sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Licence headers in template files
Date Mon, 06 Feb 2012 16:07:00 GMT
On 6 February 2012 15:29, Ross Gardler <rgardler@opendirective.com> wrote:
> On 6 February 2012 15:20, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
>> As I read it, http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#faq-exceptions
>> only applies to files with no creative content.
>>
>> AFAICT this is not the case here.
>
> Can you tell me why you think this is the case?
>
> As a reminder, in my original post I said:
>
> "There is no significant IP in these templates. they are mostly
> boilerplates that are intended to be replaced by the end user"

Are IP and creativity the same thing?
Seems to me that the templates do contain creative content.

> Ross
>
>>
>> On 6 February 2012 15:03, Ross Gardler <rgardler@opendirective.com> wrote:
>>> Perfect - thanks Ate
>>>
>>> On 6 February 2012 14:54, Ate Douma <ate@douma.nu> wrote:
>>>> On 02/06/2012 03:30 PM, ant elder wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Ate Douma<ate@douma.nu>  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 02/06/2012 02:44 PM, ant elder wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 1:37 PM, Franklin, Matthew B.
>>>>>>> <mfranklin@mitre.org>    wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am sure you know this (especially since you first pointed
me at this
>>>>>>>> page), but the release FAQ [1] makes it sound like you need
the header,
>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>> you assume your templates are source:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>       Which Files Must Contain An ASF License Text?
>>>>>>>>       Every source file must contain the appropriate ASF
License text.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am no lawyer, so I will defer to someone who has more experience
than
>>>>>>>> me to help you determine whether your snippets count as source.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think that is a bug in the Release FAQ. What i've been told
in the
>>>>>>> past but which i can't find links to right now, is that the top
level
>>>>>>> LICENSE file covers everything anyway and the individual license
>>>>>>> headers aren't strictly necessary especially for source files
without
>>>>>>> significant IP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really? That then would be quite some 'bug' IMO.
>>>>>> I can't recall have heard it said like this before, instead confirmation
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the above rule quite often. Exceptions (no headers) only being allowed
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> sources without real IP value.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ate
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IMHO if the headers are problematic for Wookie in
>>>>>>> those files then it would be ok to just not include the header.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    ...ant
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've just asked for clarification about this over at legal -
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-124
>>>>>
>>>> Seems to me this has been asked and answered before:
>>>>
>>>>  http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#faq-exceptions
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>    ...ant
>>>>>
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