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From Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Time to vote the chair?
Date Fri, 03 Feb 2012 02:15:28 GMT
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 8:59 PM, Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com> wrote:
> For me the question is one of direction.  I think
> Chris is making clear the kind of course he'd like
> to pursue down the road.
>
> Where do you stand on that discussion?

I support your direction of delegating more authority to podlings by
identifying qualified contributors and adding them to the IPMC. I also
support the general direction of Bill's proposal to demolish the
incubator; however, I think that we're a long, long, way from a
consensus on a derivative of that. Bill's scheme does cut the gordian
knot of the argument over who should be an IPMC member.

To expand, given the current structure and function of this PMC, you
can count me in the group of people who feel that an IPMC member needs
to be qualified and prepared to mentor a podling. Not to be the chair,
not to review reports. The fact that the PMC needs some people to do
these tasks does not, to me, imply that every member must be qualified
and interesting to do so.

I see a conflict in the role of the chair with respect to these
question. On the one hand, we have the idea that the chair is the
servant of the community, and a proposed chair should be aiming to
foster consensus and then abide by it. So, whatever my opinion, I
should be planning to put it aside and focus on facilitating a
constructive discussion.

On the other hand, the chair is the person to whom the board delegates
authority, and you're entitled to ask us what we plan to do if
presented with more voting scenarios like the recent ones, or at least
what we think about the questions. I still feel under-informed about
the current voting rules and the meta-voting rules, so I honestly
can't tell you at this instance what I'd do if called upon to play
referee, except to make it my business to find out the rules promptly.
As for what I think, I've written it.


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>>________________________________
>> From: Benson Margulies <bimargulies@gmail.com>
>>To: general@incubator.apache.org
>>Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 8:56 PM
>>Subject: Re: Time to vote the chair?
>>
>>I have a lateral thought.  Assuming for the moment that Chris has
>>accepted or will accept a nomination, why not recommend *both* of us
>>to the board as co-chairs? The IPMC is special. New members pop up all
>>the time and need to be fed to the board; projects need karmic
>>assistance, etc. Having two will improve coverage. A variation on this
>>theme would be to call one of us Chair and the other Vice-Chair, with
>>the Vice-Chair empowered to pitch in on acks and karma, and the chair
>>responsible for the reports.
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