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From Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com>
Subject Re: Earned autonomy
Date Mon, 06 Feb 2012 11:00:59 GMT
On 6 February 2012 01:33, Ate Douma <ate@douma.nu> wrote:
> On 02/06/2012 01:41 AM, Marvin Humphrey wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 05, 2012 at 01:26:47PM -0600, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
>>>
>>> It might be worthwhile to require 3 ASF members on the initial release,
>>> 2 on the next, 1 on the following and then trust the committee to follow
>>> the established precedent.
>>
>>
>> +1
>>
>> Instead of automatically decreasing the count, the device I'd suggest is
>> for
>> the ASF Members on the committee to vote to grant binding votes to
>> individual
>> contributors who they believe have demonstrated a thorough understanding
>> of
>> the Apache Way.
>>
>> Release Managers would be prime candidates; given the challenge of getting
>> an
>> incubating release out the door, an RM will likely have acquired greater
>> expertise than many ASF PMC members who have been voted directly into TLP
>> PMCs.  Just being an RM might not be enough, but it would be left to the
>> judgment of the ASF Members / Mentors to vet and vote on candidates.
>>
>> The canonical path towards project autonomy would thus be to make three
>> incubating releases with three different contributors serving as RM.
>
>
> What worries me a lot about the recent proposals, not only the text above,
> is that project autonomy seems to be measured foremost by just doing proper
> releases.
>
> To me, Apache == Community over code.

+1000

(I fully support everything Ate says here and I will further observe
that I have learned much about mentoring from Ate).

Ross

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