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From Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net>
Subject Re: Nomination of Chris Mattman for the IPMC Chair (was: Re: NOMINATIONS for Incubator PMC Chair)
Date Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:05:58 GMT
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
<chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> On Feb 3, 2012, at 5:50 AM, Sam Ruby wrote:
>
>
>> What I care most about is
>> addressed by this proposal: that there be an identified person to
>> which feedback can be directed for each report.
>
> Sure, I get that now. I'm +1 to be that person

I think that what I intended to say and what you seem to have heard
are two different things.  Don't worry, I'm in agreement.  :-)

Current process: individual PPMCs produce reports.  IPMC chair bundles
and forwards.  Board reviews, provides comments to IPMC chair.  For
whatever reason, this has not been effective in closing the loop.

Proposed process (as I understand it): PPMCs produce reports.  Board
reviews, provides comments to PPMC chair.  That does seem to me to be
much more likely to be an effective process.

>> First, having the board vote on the creation of each podling is a bit
>> too heavy weight.  I for one would prefer that that continue to be
>> delegated.
>
> How about to the membership of the ASF? Take it to members@?

<humor mode='dry'>
  I've yet to see members@ be a productive way to get a crisp
  resolution on ANYTHING in a finite period of time.
</humor>

>> Second, the board is not the appropriate vehicle for fine tuning /
>> micro-managing individual projects, much less podlings.  A podling
>> that consistently fails to report or fails to address issues
>> identified by the board should expect one or more of: a new chair,
>> people added or removed from the committee, of for the committee to be
>> dissolved entirely.  Having a supportive resource (whether that
>> resource goes by the name of 'incubator' or 'comdev', I care not)
>> remains important.
>
> Yes, totally, I agree with that too. In fact, I'll admit that your recent
> prodding of better IPMC reports helped me crystalize that notion.

Hmm.  I'm wondering if I should be offended.  :-P

- Sam Ruby

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