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From "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop from Apache Incubator
Date Sun, 19 Feb 2012 17:43:47 GMT
Hi Arvind,

Okey dok, just thought if you were going to cut down on confusion, it might 
make sense to *not* include general@, regardless of the guidelines :) Otherwise,
some IPMC person like me might think (regardless of what you put in your email) 
that you are intending it as a VOTE for the IPMC.

That's why they are, guidelines, but I don't think they are perfect.

Anyhoo, I'll just ignore the VOTE thread on general@, and assume that
it's really for the Sqoop PPMC at this point.

Cheers,
Chris

//notes to self, maybe I should go update those guidelines, as they don't
//make sense to me, but who doesn't have the energy to do so at this point.

On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:38 AM, Arvind Prabhakar wrote:

> Thanks Chris for your feedback. Yes, this vote is only intended to be held
> in the Sqoop community. However, according to the guide on graduation [2],
> the guidance on community graduation vote explicitly suggests copying the
> Incubator general list when the vote is proposed. Hence, I added the
> general list in the cc of the vote mail.
> 
> Also, I do state explicitly in the vote mail that if this community vote is
> successful, we will draft a board resolution proposal and call it to vote
> on the general Incubator list. When we do draft the board resolution
> proposal it will have details about initial PMC.
> 
> [2] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#tlp-community-vote
> 
> Thanks,
> Arvind Prabhakar
> 
> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) <
> chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Arvind,
>> 
>> I would encourage removing another ambiguity that I saw -- I think you
>> meant
>> to only hold this on sqoop-dev, right? That's because by the time it gets
>> to the
>> IPMC, at least one thing I'm interested in is the proposed PMC, if there
>> are
>> 3 ASF members or not, etc., and that would be part of the resolution that
>> you guys haven't drafted yet.
>> 
>> If you hold this on general@, then before VOTE'ing I would like to see the
>> proposed graduation resolution. There's a bunch of templates, here's the
>> one
>> that Lucy just used:
>> 
>> http://wiki.apache.org/lucy/LucyCharter
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>> 
>> On Feb 19, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Arvind Prabhakar wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I will have to cancel this vote thread due to a typo in the vote options
>> in
>>> my original mail below. Specifically, the option to reject the vote
>>> is mentioned as +1 when it should be -1 instead. In order to make sure
>> that
>>> there is absolutely no ambiguity in the vote, I will send out a new vote
>>> thread in a few minutes. My sincere apologies for the inconvenience.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Arvind Prabhakar
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 1:00 AM, Arvind Prabhakar <arvind@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The Apache Sqoop project entered incubator in June of 2011. Since then
>> we
>>>> have added three new committers from diverse organizations and added two
>>>> new PPMC members. The codebase of our product has steadily grown and we
>>>> have made two releases following the ASF policies and guidelines.
>> Thanks to
>>>> the excellent mentorship we have received through this period, we have
>>>> learnt to self-govern and grow our community using accepted Apache
>>>> practices. Sqoop continues to attract interest from contributors and
>> users
>>>> from all across the world.
>>>> 
>>>> Given these milestones, I strongly feel that Sqoop is ready to graduate
>>>> from Incubator.
>>>> 
>>>> The first step towards graduation is to vote as a community that Sqoop
>> is
>>>> ready to graduate. If the vote is successful, we will draft a board
>>>> resolution proposal and call it to vote on the general Incubator list.
>> The
>>>> complete graduation process is described [1].
>>>> 
>>>> Please cast your votes:
>>>> 
>>>> [  ]  +1 Graduate Sqoop from Incubator
>>>> [  ]  +0 Indifferent to graduation status of Sqoop
>>>> [  ]  +1 Reject graduation of Sqoop from Incubator
>>>> 
>>>> This vote will remain open for at least 72 hours from now.
>>>> 
>>>> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Arvind Prabhakar
>>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> Senior Computer Scientist
>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
>> WWW:   http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> 
>> 
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Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW:   http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
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Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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