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From "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov>
Subject Re: Incubator, or "Incubation"?
Date Thu, 02 Feb 2012 23:03:35 GMT
Hi Joe,

On Feb 2, 2012, at 2:37 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:

> My overall thoughts on this subject is that it is
> interesting to see Bill participating in a discussion
> that more or less amounts to knocking down the cathedral
> we've erected here and replacing it with a bazaar.
> Personally I'm not willing to walk with you guys
> down that route just yet, but the thinking behind
> the "experiment" I've been talking about was to
> just tweakthe cathedral with a hybrid "outdoor market"
> model.

Thanks yep that's basically it. I have found your experiment
successful; need no more data points; have found the
Incubator itself over its lifespan to have been successful, 
and am looking to focus scarce Apache attention and 
resources towards the future, celebrating with respect
towards the past, but also recognizing where we need
to go as a foundation.

We don't need to ope any more outdoor markets; we already
have a successful bazaar in front of us!

Cheers,
Chris

> 
> 
> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov>
>> To: William A. Rowe Jr. <wrowe@rowe-clan.net> 
>> Cc: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org> 
>> Sent: Thursday, February 2, 2012 2:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: Incubator, or "Incubation"?
>> 
>> Hey Bill,
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 10:54 AM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2/2/2012 12:49 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> OK. If that VP isn't a flow-through and isn't visible when things are working
>>>> optimally, then why have him/her?
>>> 
>>> Because when the process needs revision, and it will, the board doesn't want
to
>>> revise it.  ComDev shouldn't have to revise it.  The board wants to point to
one
>>> individual and say 'this part is broke, fix it', and have it done.
>> 
>> 
>> Interesting. I hadn't thought of that -- you see the process as (inevitably) evolving.

>> I see it as basically done, with so little revision it hardly warrants the creation
of 
>> an officer to oversee it. 
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Chris
>> 
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>> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
>> Senior Computer Scientist
>> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
>> Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
>> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
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>> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW:   http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
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