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From Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator
Date Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 GMT

We had a very similar discussion about the back word compatibility 
classes/package names when Subversion graduated and we deemed it OK for them.   
In fact, I believe they still of org.tigris packages in their codebase long 
after graduation.   See:

http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/subversion/trunk/subversion/bindings/javahl/src/org/


I don't see why we would or should hold Sqoop to a different or higher 
standard at this point.   I agree with Jukka that if we, as a foundation, 
would like to re-address this, fine, take it to trademarks@ and start a 
discussion.   However, from an INCUBATOR standpoint, the precedent and 
expectations have  been set.

That's my $0.02 cents worth.

Dan



On Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:25:41 PM Jukka Zitting wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:53 PM, Patrick Hunt <phunt@apache.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Alan D. Cabrera <adc@toolazydogs.com> 
wrote:
> >> Opps, I didn't see that Arvind concluded the vote.  I still stand by my
> >> opinion that there are some things that are not solely up to the people
> >> that are doing the work.  Complete migration to the the org.apache.*
> >> package space is one of them.
> > 
> > No worries. I respect your opinion and if Apache feels that this is
> > important enough to make explicit then certainly Sqoop should make the
> > changes. Short of that I don't see why we should hold Sqoop to a
> > higher standard than is expected of other Apache projects. (that's
> > _my_ opinion ;-) )
> 
> Right.
> 
> Basically the graduation vote by the IPMC is about determining whether
> the PPMC is capable of conducting itself according to the Apache Way
> and Apache policies on it's own. I didn't have time to look deeper
> into Sqoop yet, but all the +1s in this vote suggest that the Sqoop
> PPMC is ready to take on that responsibility. Along with that
> responsibility comes the right to make value judgements on topics like
> this where existing policies aren't clearly spelled out.
> 
> Personally I think we should let the vote result stand with guidance
> to the new Sqoop PMC to discuss the matter with the branding team at
> trademarks@ to seek Apache-wide consensus. I encourage anyone who
> feels strongly about this (the point being made clearly has some
> merit) make their case to trademarks@ as it's IMHO not really the task
> of the Incubator to be forming new policy on this, especially with all
> the recent talk about scaling down the ambitions of the IPMC.
> 
> BR,
> 
> Jukka Zitting
> 
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Daniel Kulp
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