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From Daniel Kulp <dk...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Graduate Sqoop podling from Apache Incubator
Date Wed, 29 Feb 2012 02:06:18 GMT
On Wednesday, February 29, 2012 1:13:30 AM Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> Hi Daniel...
> 
> On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 1:07 AM, Daniel Kulp <dkulp@apache.org> wrote:
> > We had a very similar discussion about the back word compatibility
> > classes/package names when Subversion graduated and we deemed it OK for
> > them.
> > In fact, I believe they still of org.tigris packages in their codebase
> > long
> > after graduation.   See:
> > 
> > 
> > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/subversion/trunk/subversion/bindings/javah
> > l/src/org/
> > 
> > 
> > I don't see why we would or should hold Sqoop to a different or higher
> > standard at this point.   I agree with Jukka that if we, as a foundation,
> > would like to re-address this, fine, take it to trademarks@ and start a
> > discussion.   However, from an INCUBATOR standpoint, the precedent and
> > expectations have  been set.
> > 
> > That's my $0.02 cents worth.
> 
> Thanks a lot for this, but would you elaborate more on why this has been
> accepted ? My believe is that there is some clarification that should be
> added to documentation so it is more clear for all people in the future,
> your input on this example would help indeed.

You could likely read the mail archives if you want all the details.   
general@incubator in Nov 2009 had a thread,  dev@subversion in Jan 2010 had a 
thread, and I think the graduation vote in Feb 2010 had more discussions.

Basically, the Subversion had binary compatibility "rules" and there was no 
real "legal" requirement to force a huge disruption in the community by 
changing the package names.   The project had a plan to deprecate them/create 
wrappers/whatever so when it was appropriate to break compatibility they 
would.


-- 
Daniel Kulp
dkulp@apache.org - http://dankulp.com/blog
Talend Community Coder - http://coders.talend.com

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