Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 96366B8C9 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 21:51:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 82069 invoked by uid 500); 10 Jan 2012 21:51:20 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 81751 invoked by uid 500); 10 Jan 2012 21:51:19 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 81743 invoked by uid 99); 10 Jan 2012 21:51:19 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 21:51:19 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of jukka.zitting@gmail.com designates 209.85.212.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.212.175] (HELO mail-wi0-f175.google.com) (209.85.212.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 21:51:14 +0000 Received: by wibhq7 with SMTP id hq7so39836wib.6 for ; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 13:50:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=A6SDTjWkfPorPpU1pmALc0Sn8t25aM6vFr6lgdCbesY=; b=k8IQJOOIyCF7WC8CLcc6MvSWhGdOyAZUL8s/Whqx0gG8+bHUdGqbNpyhs5u32RR4oV DgYy8bmdJef1nn3gTAx0nvxjtqdCJIAEiQ4/D8umVqTEzB3R+7ixips7Mgrs9/aeSNAf CVpa8X8SNvfpE5jZJk5k4V25h8zKx+Ur3ZKXE= Received: by 10.180.19.138 with SMTP id f10mr46990208wie.3.1326232253134; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 13:50:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.97.67 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Jan 2012 13:50:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4F0C9662.6030107@rowe-clan.net> References: <10AD3D3E-B041-4144-90D5-A1E563A5087B@gbiv.com> <4F0C9662.6030107@rowe-clan.net> From: Jukka Zitting Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 22:50:32 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Q. Forks without concensus?; A. anytime / depends / never without agreement To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 8:49 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: > It is not helpful to have a number of directors contradicting each > other on general@, never coming to consensus. =A0In fact, its maddening. I see no indication of this escalating into a board issue, so I don't see why the voices of directors should carry any more weight than those of other experienced members of our community. Or why they for some reason should agree more with each other than the rest of us do. Instead I'd find it odd if the directors came here with a common voice, implying that the board has already collectively decided what we should do. The IPMC is perfectly capable (in its own sometimes messy way) to deal with this issue. In fact the board has explicitly delegated the responsibility of "acceptance and oversight of new products submitted or proposed to become part of the Foundation" to the IPMC. BR, Jukka Zitting --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org