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boundary="980202461-1867347048-1326916966=:94025" X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org --980202461-1867347048-1326916966=:94025 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Generally good mentors recognize candidates=0Afrom their podlings who would= make good IPMC=0Amembers and nominate them privately, just as=0Apodlings n= ominate members for their own PPMC.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A>________________________= ________=0A> From: Karl Wright =0A>To: general@incubato= r.apache.org; Joe Schaefer =0A>Sent: Wednesday, Ja= nuary 18, 2012 2:52 PM=0A>Subject: Re: [VOTE] Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4= -incubating, RC2=0A> =0A>Sounds intriguing.=A0 How is this done?=A0 I'm afr= aid I'm vague as to the=0A>process by which people become IPMC members.=0A>= =0A>Karl=0A>=0A>On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:=0A>> The solution is simple, bring more IPMC members=0A>= > in from the ManifoldCF podling.=A0 That is exactly=0A>> what we did for L= ucy!=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>=0A>>>________________________________=0A>>> From: = Marvin Humphrey =0A>>>To: general@incubator.apache.= org=0A>>>Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:33 PM=0A>>>Subject: Re: [VOTE]= Release apache-manifoldcf-0.4-incubating, RC2=0A>>>=0A>>>On Wed, Jan 18, 2= 012 at 02:11:49PM -0500, Karl Wright wrote:=0A>>>> Waiting for the last IPM= C vote has become the longest and most=0A>>>> uncertain part of the Manifol= dCF release process.=A0 Considering the=0A>>>> amount of effort and good wo= rk that the committers put into each=0A>>>> release, it's surely not too mu= ch to ask for someone here to have a=0A>>>> look at it?=A0 (We apologize; w= e really hate to bother you all, but=0A>>>> those ARE the rules...)=0A>>>= =0A>>>(Apologies in advance that this isn't a VOTE email...)=0A>>>=0A>>>For= what it's worth, I tried to review a release candidate for an earlier=0A>>= >ManifoldCF release, but I had to give up because I just didn't feel qualif= ied=0A>>>to evaluate the legal aspect given ManifoldCF's large number of de= pendencies=0A>>>and my limited Java-fu.=0A>>>=0A>>>I find it very challengi= ng to step in as a freelance IPMC member to cast a=0A>>>release vote on a p= roject I haven't been involved with.=0A>>>=0A>>>I definitely consider the d= ifficulty in scraping up these votes to be a=0A>>>significant weakness in h= ow the Incubator operates right now, but I don't have=0A>>>any ideas about = how to improve the situation. :(=0A>>>=0A>>>Marvin Humphrey=0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>= >>---------------------------------------------------------------------=0A>= >>To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org=0A>>>For= additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org=0A>>>=0A>>>= =0A>>>=0A>>>=0A>=0A>-------------------------------------------------------= --------------=0A>To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apa= che.org=0A>For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.o= rg=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> --980202461-1867347048-1326916966=:94025--