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From Robert Burrell Donkin <>
Subject Parking Projects [WAS Re: -1 on this months board report (was: Small but otherwise happy podlings)]
Date Sun, 15 Jan 2012 16:31:20 GMT
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Sam Ruby <> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 6:32 PM, Stuart Monteith <> wrote:


>> I'll back up what Ant said - Robert and Ant have shown heroic patience as mentors
on this project. The situation will resolve itself one way or the other soon.
> If the question is whether Robert and Ant are good guys, there is no
> question, they both have my vote on that question.

As a Kato mentor, I see my role as ensuring that the Foundation is
safe and that Kato is run the Apache Way, not fixing all that's broken
in the Incubator.

> If the question is whether or not a podling can essentially copy and
> paste the same report quarter after quarter, year after year, with
> little or no change, then I strongly object.

ATM Incubation works well only for main sequence projects. The IPMC
has collectively failed to account in its system for podlings that
encounter unusual issues that force them from the sequence.

IMO it is the responsibility of the IPMC to fix the system when it
breaks, not the Mentors of the podling. For month after month, Kato
has been flagged in the reports as stalled but no one in the IPMC
community thought to even discuss how to fix this before now.

(And now the IPMC seems to have brought only one club: terminate any
podling which leaves the main sequence...)

Kato is not the first podling to be stalled. It will not be the last.
A 'parked' status (freezing the podling but allowing an efficient
restart) is IMO the right way to manage this.


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