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From Robert Burrell Donkin <robertburrelldon...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Actively retiring projects
Date Mon, 16 Jan 2012 15:45:03 GMT
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net> wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin
> <robertburrelldonkin@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Ross Gardler
>> <rgardler@opendirective.com> wrote:
>>> On 16 January 2012 11:51, Robert Burrell Donkin
>>> <robertburrelldonkin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>>> Terminating projects with active communities is the area of active dispute
>>>
>>> Can you please provide a link to a message in the archive that states
>>> that a project with an active community should be terminated?
>>
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201201.mbox/%3CCAOFYJNbZ6PYSHZnfgm7GQSVwECoKqDQRjHMJwOLCmXCYUBbiUA%40mail.gmail.com%3E
>
> Close reading of that message indicates a suggestion that an inactive
> community be terminated.

The email suggests termination as the final solution for a number of podlings

If the intention was to highlight potentially inactive podlings,
labeling them as 'inactive' would have been clearer

<snip>

>> Language is important. Project 'termination' feels very different from
>> 'parking' or 'emeritus graduation', even though the actions taken in
>> each case may be very similar.
>
>> IMO it's time to start thinking about, describing and documentation
>> exit paths which lead outside Apache without a judgment of failure on
>> anyone's part
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html#graduated
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html#dormant
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html#retired
>
> Perhaps "dormant" would be an appropriate description of the Kato
> polding at this time?

Kato is now - and has been - stalled for more than a year: work was
stopped by an external impediment (rather than interest drifting away)
[1]

It would have been clearer to be able to mark this sort of situation
and suspend animation

Robert
[1] The community awaits a decision from Oracle. At one time, this was
expected promptly. Now hope fades.

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