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From Ross Gardler <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Park Kato
Date Mon, 16 Jan 2012 09:07:48 GMT

The IPMC is currently discussing how to handle these situations.We
have not come to an agreement yet and so this seems premature at best.
Furthermore, there is currently no definition of "parking". I have no
interest in voting on something that is not well defined.

Secondly, and more importantly I'd rather hear from the project
community than a mentor who says (and I paraphrase) "as a mentor I
think everything is OK but lets kill it anyway, I want to make a point
to the IPMC". I appreciate my paraphrase my be doing a disservice to
you Robert, but that is what it reads like to someone with only the
information you provide here.

I, as an IPMC member do not know what "this external problem stopped
work" means. It has not, to my knowledge, been adequately covered in
board reports and I see no clear expression of the problem here on the

Robert, I respect your recommendation as a mentor but if you want me,
as an IPMC member, to back it then you need to provide enough
information for me to make an informed decision OR you need the Kato
community to indicate that this is their desire.


On 16 January 2012 08:50, Robert Burrell Donkin
<> wrote:
> Kato implements a specification. Work on this specification is
> currently suspended and its future is unknown. IMHO Kato was healthy
> and progressing towards eventual graduation before this external
> problem stopped work.
> Creating, reading and review reports for podlings in this unusual
> situation is a burden for the IPMC and the board.
> As Mentor, I propose that the IPMC acts to resolve this situation by
> winding down Kato in a way that allows an easy restart (by a simple
> vote) whilst preserving the legal work done in open sourcing this code
> base. For short, 'parking' rather than 'termination'.
> Robert
> --8<-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> [ ] +1 Park Kato
> [ ] +0
> [ ] -0
> [ ] -1 Do not park Kato
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Parking
> ======
> Aim to retain legal work and code base, allowing an easy restart if
> these problems are resolved.
> Suggested Action Items For Mentors
> ----------------------------------------------
> * Review and commit accurate final status
> * Move kato.xml status to projects/parked
> * Update Incubator web site
> * Update disclaimers
> * Review source and create final Apache source release
> * Move source to read-only 'incubator/parked/kato'
> * Use final source release to seed repository on GitHub
> * Suspend mailing lists
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Ross Gardler (@rgardler)
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