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From Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net>
Subject Re: Actively retiring projects
Date Sun, 15 Jan 2012 21:49:40 GMT
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Robert Burrell Donkin
<robertburrelldonkin@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 7:40 PM, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net> wrote:
>> +1

Excessive snippage violation.

> Voting to terminate a project through lack of success sends a very
> clear message. Being 'terminated' is a very clear and public
> punishment, both for Mentors and for the project.

I didn't call you on it when you said "And now the IPMC seems to have
brought only one club: terminate any
podling": http://s.apache.org/htF

I will do so now.

What I, and others, have been asking for is for the Incubator PMC to
read, review, and act on Incubator reports before they are sent to the
board.  When a podling misses a month, or provides a report that is
inadequate, or merely inspires questions, ask for that podling to
report again next month.  If a podling deserves special focus, please
ask them to report consecutively for a three month period, and in
those reports address questions that have come up from the IPMC.  I've
said this numerous times.  In case you missed it, here are two such
links:

http://s.apache.org/rN
http://s.apache.org/D1c

I will also point out that one of the projects that I am mentoring,
namely JSPWiki, is actively exploring the idea of terminating
incubation.  They are also actively exploring revitalizing the
project, perhaps on a different baseline.  Either way, I wish them
well, and won't take it personally.  In particular, if the only reason
that they were to want to stay was that for some reason that would be
perceived as a black mark on me personally, I would strongly suggest
that they leave instead.

- Sam Ruby

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