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From Greg Stein <>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] eliminate vetoes on personnel votes
Date Tue, 31 Jan 2012 18:38:08 GMT
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 13:20, Daniel Shahaf <> wrote:
> Greg Stein wrote on Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 12:12:50 -0500:
>> In that light, we're talking about "what kinds of voting results
>> should be forwarded by the Chair?" If the Chair sends a request to the
>> Board to add somebody and reports "5 +1 votes, 2 -1 votes"... would
>> that be sufficient? 2/3rds or 3/4ths doesn't really matter. The Board
>> is going to investigate the consensus and what is going on behind
>> those negative votes.
> "Investigate"?  Isn't it going to tell the PMC to decide whether or not
> they are recommending the addition of the person?

Typically, when there are negative votes, the Board will try to figure
out what is going on. The PMC (obviously) has not made up its mind as
a whole. The votes may be normal, everyday concerns against
membership, but it can signal more than that.

To put it another way: votes that reach the Board are typically
unanimous. Thus, if a vote is *not* unanimous, something funny is
going on and should be looked at.

If you have a jackass blocking nominations, then the Board will ACK
the addition. If there are real concerns, then the Board will hold up.

[something like that; obviously, I don't speak for the entire Board;
I'm offering my predictions of behavior based on my own vote, and what
I believe the other Directors would do]


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