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From Joe Schaefer <joe_schae...@yahoo.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Clarify the role of the Champion as an "incubation coordinator"
Date Tue, 17 Jan 2012 22:21:41 GMT
Well I think we will likely see more of the
same- the usual suspects signing up to Champion,
then wandering off once the podling is underway.




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> From: Christian Grobmeier <grobmeier@gmail.com>
>To: general@incubator.apache.org; Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com> 
>Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 5:18 PM
>Subject: Re: [VOTE] Clarify the role of the Champion as an "incubation coordinator"
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>On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 11:15 PM, Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I doubt writing some more documentation on
>> some webpage about yet another set of responsibilities
>> for yet another role will make a material
>> difference to anyone's behavior.  Under Noel
>> we have run the Incubator as a member entitlement
>> program, and the generally poor quality of
>> mentoring is the natural result of that.
>
>If we can't find a champion willing to do this task we shouldn't
>accept the podling.
>This levels the bar to enter the incubator, but probably helps that we
>do not accept every podling which sounds cool.
>Better less but well-cared podlings.
>
>How to care on what we have now is another question.
>
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>>> From: William A. Rowe Jr. <wrowe@rowe-clan.net>
>>>To: general@incubator.apache.org
>>>Cc: Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 5:10 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [VOTE] Clarify the role of the Champion as an "incubation coordinator"
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>>>On 1/17/2012 4:03 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>>>> Yes, but this may wind up raising the bar for the
>>>> Champion position so high that we wind up with
>>>> fewer people offering to fulfill it.
>>>
>>>In those cases, perhaps there is nobody actually qualified and willing
>>>to "Champion" the project at all?  In which case we end up with the
>>>handful of half-attentive mentors which you have been ranting about.
>>>
>>>This may reset the bar.  Perhaps that bar needed to be reset?
>>>
>>>
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