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From Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de>
Subject Re: [CANCEL] [VOTE] Recommend graduating Apache Bean-Validation (BVAL) as a TLP
Date Tue, 10 Jan 2012 21:34:10 GMT
Folks, a big sorry, but I think we hit a road blocker because we need to rethink our project
name.

"Bean Validation" is just not ok as the spec is already named that way. The projects PMC will
find another name and check it with trademark. 


Thanks again to sebb, jukka and all others for their input and guidance on lots of other points!
 


And no worries, "We'll be back, baby" :)

txs and LieGrue,
strub



----- Original Message -----
> From: Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de>
> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <general@incubator.apache.org>
> Cc: 
> Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 10:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [VOTE] Recommend graduating Apache Bean-Validation (BVAL) as a TLP
> 
> Hi Jukka!
> 
> Thanks for this very constructive post!
> 
> I'm not a native english speaker, but even I understand the point with not 
> using JSR-330 but a more 'descriptive' wording :)
> 
> What about the following?
> 
> 
>>  WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>>  interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>>  Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>>  Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>>  open-source software related to the Content Bean Validation 
>>  Specification and its implementation as Apache BeanValidation
>>  and extensions for distribution at no charge to the public.
> 
> Which leads me to another point which lets me think that we should cancel the 
> vote and restart after we cleaned up the wording.
> The current proposal erroneous had "Apache Bean Validation" as project 
> name. This is a failure as the projects name always have been "Apache 
> BeanValidation" (without a space) or short "Apache BVAL". 
> I really like to change this in the proposal and restart the vote. Neither 
> "Bean Validation" nor "BeanValidation" nor "BVAL" 
> are trademarked yet, but "Bean Validation" (with space) might be hard 
> to defend as trademark (as it's also the name of the spec itself [1])
> 
> WDYT? We should Cancel the vote and fix those issues, right?
> 
> txs and LieGrue,
> strub
> 
> [1] http://jcp.org/en/jsr/summary?id=303
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: Jukka Zitting <jukka.zitting@gmail.com>
>>  To: general <general@incubator.apache.org>
>>  Cc: 
>>  Sent: Monday, January 9, 2012 12:08 PM
>>  Subject: Re: [VOTE] Recommend graduating Apache Bean-Validation (BVAL) as a 
> TLP
>> 
>>  Hi,
>> 
>>  +1 to graduate, with the following note:
>> 
>>  On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 10:04 PM, Mark Struberg <struberg@yahoo.de> 
> wrote:
>>>   WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best
>>>   interests of the Foundation and consistent with the
>>>   Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management
>>>   Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of
>>>   open-source software related to creating an implementation
>>>   compliant with JSR-303 and a library of pre-developed validators
>>>   and extensions for distribution at no charge to the public.
>> 
>>  As noted by others, the project scope could use some clarification.
>> 
>>  Also, rather than referring specifically to "JSR-303", it would
>>  probably be better to refer to "the Bean Validation API" to avoid
>>  tying the project to a specific version of the API. For example the
>>  Apache Jackrabbit resolution [1] referred to "the Content Repository
>>  for Java Technology API" instead of "JSR-170" which would by 
> now 
>>  (with
>>  JSR-283 and JSR-333 defining updated API versions) be outdated.
>> 
>>  [1] 
>> 
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/records/minutes/2006/board_minutes_2006_03_15.txt
>> 
>>  BR,
>> 
>>  Jukka Zitting
>> 
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