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Subject: Re: [VOTE] Flex to join the Apache Incubator
From: Michael McCandless <lucene@mikemccandless.com>
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+1 (binding)

Mike McCandless

http://blog.mikemccandless.com

On Tue, Dec 27, 2011 at 4:51 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
<bdelacretaz@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Incubator PMC members (*),
>
> I've just reviewed the "[PROPOSAL] Flex for Apache Incubator" thread
> and I think all relevant issues have been adressed now.
>
> I have added Anne and Dave Fisher as mentors, pending their final
> approval as Incubator PMC members. In the unlikely worst case that
> this approval doesn't happen the project has two confirmed mentors to
> start with anyway.
>
> Let's cast your votes to accept Flex as an incubating project,
> proposal is at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/FlexProposal, copied
> below as well:
>
> [ ] +1 approve Flex as an incubating project.
> [ ] -1 reject (explaining why)
> [ ] +/- 0 don't care.
>
> This majority vote is open for 72 hours.
>
> Here's my +1.
>
> -Bertrand
>
> (*) although only votes from Incubator PMC members are binding,
> anybody is welcome to cast a vote
>
> ** Flex proposal copy ***
>
> =3D Apache Flex Proposal =3D
>
> =3D=3D Abstract =3D=3D
>
> Apache Flex is an application framework for easily building
> Flash-based applications for mobile devices, the browser and desktop.
>
> =3D=3D Proposal =3D=3D
>
> Apache Flex allows developers to target a variety of platforms,
> initially Apple iOS, Google Android, RIM !BlackBerry, Microsoft
> Windows, and Mac OS X with a single codebase. Flex provides a
> compiler, skinnable user-interface components and managers to handle
> styling, skinning, layout, localization, animation, module-loading and
> user interaction management.
>
> =3D=3D Background =3D=3D
>
> Apache Flex is the software evolution of the popular Adobe Flex SDK proje=
ct.
> Adobe Flex SDK evolved from the need to provide developers with an
> easy programming model for creating rich Internet applications that
> can run in the browser, on the desktop or on mobile devices.
>
> Adobe Flex SDK has always focused on a single goal: to provide
> application developers with all of the constructs needed to boost
> their productivity while building large-scale, visually expressive
> applications. This meant that Flex provided all the traditional UI
> components in a way that designers and developers could interact with
> them along with a dynamic scripting language, !ActionScript, and a
> declarative markup language, MXML.
>
> Adobe will donate the Flex trademark to the Apache Software Foundation
> as part of the incubation process. The source code, documentation and
> related assets will all be contributed to the Apache Foundation as
> Flex.
>
> =3D=3D Rationale =3D=3D
>
> Content developers need to target multiple screens and the cost of
> creating applications native to every target platform is high.
> Additionally, the dominant window to the web is quickly becoming
> devices, mostly phones, and delivering consistent experiences is key.
> The Apache Flex project exists to bring the focus back to a consistent
> development model, one where a single application can run the exact
> same way across the web, desktop and mobile devices.
>
> =3D=3D Initial Goals =3D=3D
>
> =A0* Donate all Adobe Flex SDK source code and documentation to the
> Apache Software Foundation.
> =A0* Setup and standardize the open governance of the Apache Flex project=
.
> =A0* Rename all assets from Adobe Flex SDK to Apache Flex in project
> source code, docs, tests and related infrastructure.
>
> =3D=3D Current Status =3D=3D
>
> Flex is a mature software project. 1.0 was shipped in March of 2004
> with 7 major releases having shipped since. The most recent release
> was the 4.6 version which shipped on November 29th, 2011.
>
> This proposal is currently being
> [[http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201112.mbox/=
%3CCB14DCA2.3885F%25aharui%40adobe.com%3E|discussed]]
> on the incubator general mailing list, once that's done we'll ask the
> Incubator PMC to vote to accept it.
>
> =3D=3D Meritocracy =3D=3D
>
> The Adobe Flex source code is available to the community on the Adobe
> opensource site:
> http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Flex+SDK. =A0Currently,
> while the community has been invited to contribute patches to the
> codebase, only Adobe employees decided on which patches to commit.
> There were no external committers and this caused frustration in the
> community.
>
> Going forward, both Adobe and our community are eager to become one
> single merit-based community working together. =A0To that end, Adobe
> employes only have a minority representation on the initial committers
> list. =A0Adobe is working to educate our community with meetings and
> blog posts on how the Apache model makes this possible for them.
>
> We have made it clear to our community that going forward, the
> community, rather than Adobe, will determine the future of Flex.
>
> =3D=3D Community =3D=3D
>
> The community surrounding Flex is vast, diverse, distributed globally,
> and with all levels of proficiency in software development. The common
> thread of application development binds all Flex developers together.
>
> It is estimated that there is between 350,000 and 500,000 Flex
> developers worldwide. Precise numbers are impossible for us to know
> due to the open nature of Flex. A blog post calling for initial
> committers received over 60 responses in two days. =A0 The !FlexCoders
> mailing list, a general-purpose mailing list for anyone working with
> Flex, has over 9000 members. =A0A quick look on the Adobe Forums or
> Twitter=92s #!AdobeFlex hashtag usually shows activity within minutes.
> The community is engaged and active daily and incredibly excited by
> Adobe=92s move to contribute Adobe Flex SDK to Apache. The community is
> responsive, inclusive and honestly emphatic when it comes to bettering
> Flex for application development.
>
> =3D=3D Alignment =3D=3D
>
> The only way the Apache Flex project can work is if it is an open,
> transparent and collaborative effort. The project has now grown in
> mind-share and community enough that we believe it is time we work
> with a foundation to see the code mature in a fashion consistent with
> our values.
>
> =3D=3D Known Risks =3D=3D
>
> Moving from a corporate-led project to the Apache model of
> collaboration is a challenge, and Adobe is committed to help making
> the transition as smooth as possible, by delegating employees to work
> on the new project. We would like to see more free collaboration from
> the community but with the same principles that has kept Flex with the
> high-quality design and ease-of-use it has maintained under Adobe=92s
> governing hand.
>
> =3D=3D Documentation =3D=3D
>
> We will, over time, be moving all of the documentation, including
> localized versions, from Adobe
> (http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flex/documentation.html) to the Apache
> Software Foundation.
>
> =3D=3D Initial Source =3D=3D
>
> All code related to the Apache Flex project can be found on SVN here:
> http://opensource.adobe.com/svn/opensource/flex/sdk/branches/4.y/
>
> =3D=3D Source and IP Submission Plan =3D=3D
>
> =A0* All canonical source will be moved to Apache infrastructure under
> the name Flex.
> =A0* Documentation and specifications will be moved completely over to
> the Apache systems.
> =A0* The existing Flash Builder trademark will be used as a commercial en=
tity.
> =A0* Existing Flex-related conferences, podcasts and websites should be
> allowed to continue using =93Flex=94 as part of their name, however such
> use will have to conform to existing Apache trademark policies listed
> at http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/ . Apache Flex will need to
> create guidelines and provide guidance for that.
>
> =3D=3D External Dependencies =3D=3D
>
> Some parts of Flex development rely on third-party libraries. =A0The
> complete list is still being determined but some are:
> =A0* Adobe AIR SDK
> =A0* Adobe Flash Player SDK
> =A0* Adobe Text Layout Framework (TLF)
> =A0* Adobe Open Source Media Framework (OSMF)
> =A0* Adobe Font Engine (AFE)
>
> Licensing of these dependencies will have to be checked, and possibly
> adapted, to allow their use in Apache Flex.
>
> =3D=3D Required Resources =3D=3D
>
> Mailing Lists
> =A0* flex-dev
> =A0* flex-commits
> =A0* flex-private
>
> Subversion Directory
> =A0* http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/flex
>
> Issue Tracking:
> =A0* FLEX project in JIRA.
>
> Wiki will be requested as needed.
>
> =3D=3D Initial Committers =3D=3D
>
> =A0* Alex Harui (aharui at adobe dot com)
> =A0* Carol Frampton (cframpto at adobe dot com)
> =A0* Adam Flater (adamflater at gmail dot com)
> =A0* Anatole Tartakovsky (atartakovsky at faratasystems dot com)
> =A0* Ben Kolin (bkolin at vmware dot com)
> =A0* Chuck Mastrandrea (chuck.mastrandrea at sas dot com)
> =A0* Douglas Arthur (darthur at vmware dot com)
> =A0* Espen Skogen (espen.skogen at jpmorgan dot com)
> =A0* Gabor Csomak (csomakk at gmail dot com)
> =A0* Garth Braithwaite (garthdb at adobe dot com)
> =A0* Greg Owen (Greg.Owen at effectiveui dot com)
> =A0* Igor Costa (igorcosta at gmail dot com)
> =A0* Iwo Banas (banas.iwo at gmail dot com)
> =A0* Jeff Boothe (jeff.boothe. at reurgency dot com)
> =A0* Jeff Tapper (jeff at spoon.as)
> =A0* Jeffry Houser (jeffry at dot-com-it dot com)
> =A0* Jeremy Tellier (jtellier at Actieve dot com)
> =A0* Jon Rose (jon.rose at gorillajawn dot com)
> =A0* Jonathon Campos (jonbcampos at gmail dot com)
> =A0* Jun Heider (jun at realeyes dot com)
> =A0* Kevin Korngut (kevin at spoon.as)
> =A0* Leif Wells (leif.wells at gmail dot com)
> =A0* Michael Jordan (mijordan at adobe dot com)
> =A0* Michael Labriola (labriola at digitalprimates dot net)
> =A0* Michael Schmalle (mike at teotigraphix dot com)
> =A0* Michelle Yaiser (myaiser at adobe dot com)
> =A0* Nicholas Kwaitkowski (nicholas at spoon.as)
> =A0* Omar Gonzalez (omarg.developer at gmail dot com)
> =A0* Peter Elst (peter.elst at gmail dot com)
> =A0* Pratyoosh Sharma (pratyoosh.sharma at jpmorgan dot com)
> =A0* Rui Silva (rui.silva at alert-online dot com)
> =A0* Ryan Frishberg (Ryan.Frishberg at ubs dot com)
> =A0* Scott Delamater (sdelamater at shutterfly dot com)
> =A0* Sebastian Mohr (masuland at gmail dot com)
> =A0* Stephen Downs (stephen.downs at tink dot ws)
> =A0* Stephen Gilson (smgilson at adobe dot com)
>
> =3D=3D Sponsors =3D=3D
>
> Champion
> =A0* Bertrand Delacretaz
>
> Nominated Mentors
> =A0* Bertrand Delacretaz (bdelacretaz at a.o)
> =A0* Greg Reddin (greddin at a.o)
> =A0* Anne Kathrine Petteroe (akpetteroe at a.o - pending final Incubator
> PMC membership approval)
> =A0* Dave Fisher (wave at a.o - pending final Incubator PMC membership ap=
proval)
>
> =3D=3D Sponsoring Entity =3D=3D
> =A0* Apache Incubator
>
> *** Flex proposal copy ends ***
>
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