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From Craig L Russell <craig.russ...@oracle.com>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Flex for Apache Incubator
Date Wed, 21 Dec 2011 13:37:09 GMT
Hi Bertrand,

It looks like this issue is well understood and I have no concerns  
that the incubating community will take appropriate steps during  
incubation to resolve any remaining issues regarding the name.

Craig

On Dec 21, 2011, at 1:10 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:

> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 8:35 AM, Craig L Russell
> <craig.russell@oracle.com> wrote:
> ...
>>>> On 12/20/2011 4:24 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The proposal says "Existing Flex-related conferences, podcasts and
>>>>> websites should be allowed to continue using “Flex” as part of  
>>>>> their
>>>>> name - Apache Flex will have to create guidelines for that."
>>>>>
>> ...A quick search of the internet shows these potential conflicts  
>> as well:
>>
>> flex.org run by Adobe Platform Evangelism Team; will this site die  
>> or will
>> Apache be expected to maintain it with volunteers?...
>
> I have no idea, but if it continues to exist and points to Apache Flex
> I have no problem with that.
>
>> http://www.gnu.org/software/flex/
>
> Fun - same name for something totally different. IMO this deserves a
> "there are other FLEXs out there" page on the Apache Flex website. No
> big deal.
>
>> flex.at © 2008 Flex. All rights reserved. Site by instant>>>>
>
> Hard to say what that is from their frontpage...tv or radio show? Not
> confusing IMO.
>
>>
>> flex.com ISP in Hawaii
>
> An ISP. Not confusing.
>
>> openshift.redhat.com/app/flex
>
> The full name is "Openshift Flex", which clears the confusion with
> "Apache Flex". Like when someone asks "which Craig are you talking
> about"?
>
> This list shows that "Flex" is a fairly generic adjective/qualifier/ 
> something.
>
> This hasn't been a problem for Adobe so far - everybody who should
> know knows what "Adobe Flex" is, I imagine the same will continue once
> it's "Apache Flex".
>
>>
>> ...I'd really like to have trademarks and legal take a closer look  
>> at this...
>> We know what a nightmare name conflicts are, even when the name in  
>> question
>> is as well-known and well-understood as this one....
>
> I don't think this is needed now.
>
> As I wrote a few minutes ago in this thread, Flex is *entering* the
> incubator with this name. There's plenty of time during incubation to
> verify that the name works, and if not it can be changed.
>
> -Bertrand
>
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Craig L Russell
Architect, Oracle
http://db.apache.org/jdo
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