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From Hyrum K Wright <>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Bloodhound
Date Thu, 15 Dec 2011 04:40:48 GMT
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 2:41 AM, Greg Stein <> wrote:
> On Dec 12, 2011 3:12 AM, "Jukka Zitting" <> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 4:53 PM, Hyrum K Wright
>> <> wrote:
>> > By it's own recognition, however, the development community
>> > surrounding Trac has largely dissipated, with little mailing list
>> > traffic, and very few commits to the source code repository (see [2]).
>> >  Private efforts to engage the existing developers in implementing
>> > features have been negatively received.  At the same time, other
>> > individuals and companies, such as
>> > [[|WANdisco]], have expressed interest in
>> > helping continue to develop Trac.  These entities would prefer this
>> > effort to be at a vendor-neutral location, with the clear process for
>> > intellectual property management that comes from the Foundation.
>> Do you have pointers to public discussions about this? Without a
>> well-documented history of attempts and failure to engage with the
>> existing developers this could easily be seen as a hostile fork.
> I've seen some offlist discussions with the principals behind Trac. This
> has not caught them unaware. One of those devs even created a wiki page at
> Edgewall for Bloodhound:
> My impression of their view is "ambivalence".
>> Most notably, has the idea of bringing Trac itself to the ASF been
>> presented to Edgewall? What was their response?
> Hyrum has seen more of the discussion and could answer better, but my read
> is that ambivalence again. They aren't going to put in an effort themselves
> to move Trac itself.
> I seem to recall a couple of the devs are interested in the move, and want
> to see how it goes.

That pretty much captures it.  The complete discussion on the trac-dev
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