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From "William A. Rowe Jr." <>
Subject Re: [PROPOSAL] Flex for Apache Incubator
Date Wed, 21 Dec 2011 09:56:46 GMT
On 12/21/2011 1:35 AM, Craig L Russell wrote:
> On Dec 20, 2011, at 2:51 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
>> On 20 December 2011 22:35, William A. Rowe Jr. <> wrote:
>>> On 12/20/2011 4:24 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
>>>> The proposal says "Existing Flex-related conferences, podcasts and
>>>> websites should be allowed to continue using “Flex” as part of their
>>>> name - Apache Flex will have to create guidelines for that."
>>>> Whilst I don't see any problem with that in principle it would be
>>>> really useful to itemise these items so that we know what we are
>>>> dealing with.
>>> It's a problem as a blanket statement.  If the project is not going
>>> to donate its name, it needs to pick a new name on its way into the
>>> incubator, before graduation.
>> The proposal does say the Flex trademark is being donated. The above
>> is an indication that there are groups already using that mark and
>> they should be allowed to continue to do so. My concern is that there
>> may be a for profit using this trademark that expects to continue to
>> use it. That, I imagine, would be unacceptable. even not-for-profits
>> might present complications.
>> Better to understand what these might be in advance.
> A quick search of the internet shows these potential conflicts as well:
> run by Adobe Platform Evangelism Team; will this site die or will Apache be
> expected to maintain it with volunteers?
> © 2008 Flex. All rights reserved. Site by instant>>>>
> ISP in Hawaii
> I'd really like to have trademarks and legal take a closer look at this... We know what
> nightmare name conflicts are, even when the name in question is as well-known and
> well-understood as this one.

If Adobe properly managed the Flex(TM) mark, everything is trivial
from here on out.

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