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From Ralph Goers <>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Bloodhound to join the Incubator
Date Sat, 31 Dec 2011 16:35:49 GMT
Arguing about the vote procedure isn't likely to get you very far. At this point, I would recommend
that you hold a vote on the appropriate Trac mailing list regarding approving or disapproving
a fork and then forwarding that here.  If the existing community doesn't want a fork I would
suspect the incubator PMC would require the bloodhound project not to start from one.


On Dec 31, 2011, at 8:16 AM, Ethan Jucovy wrote:

> On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 10:57 AM, Ralph Goers <>wrote:
>> I find this post disturbing. Had it been posted before the vote closed I
>> most certainly would have voted -1 as we don't encourage hostile forks at
>> the ASF.
> I hadn't realized the vote was closed until after sending the message -- my
> apologies.  I don't wish to stir things up unnecessarily but is there any
> possibility of redoing the vote?
> * Per [1,2,3] it's not clear to me that the vote followed the Incubator's
> documented procedures.  Who was the Sponsor who called the vote?
> Presumably Hyrum Wright is acting as Champion, but he seems to have
> initiated and closed the vote as well as making the proposal.
> * The announcement that the vote was closed, and the tally of votes, was
> not made in a separate thread.  (I was not subscribed to this list until
> this week; until then I was only watching the discussion through the web
> archive, and I didn't notice that the vote was closed.)
> * Having a 72 hour voting period does not seem to be required[4] and it
> seems very short for a proposal of this nature.  (Finding the time to write
> my message, and collecting the references, took me five days.)
> * In particular a 72 hour voting period in the middle of December seems
> especially short, as many people travel or are otherwise occupied for
> holidays.
> [1] "The decision to accept a project is taken on a vote by the
> Sponsor." from
> [2] "The decision to approve the candidate proposal MUST be taken on a vote
> by the Sponsor" from
> [3]
> [4] "The Sponsor will typically take about 7-10 days before announcing a
> vote result."
> --
> though glancing through the list's recent archives a 72-hour period doesn't
> seem atypical.

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