Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 22C4B90E7 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 10:50:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 46710 invoked by uid 500); 28 Nov 2011 10:50:43 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 46386 invoked by uid 500); 28 Nov 2011 10:50:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 46367 invoked by uid 99); 28 Nov 2011 10:50:42 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 10:50:42 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of sebbaz@gmail.com designates 209.85.220.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.220.175] (HELO mail-vx0-f175.google.com) (209.85.220.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 10:50:35 +0000 Received: by vcbfo13 with SMTP id fo13so1689056vcb.6 for ; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 02:50:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=rr57itxQTR0Rr2Uyv6ox4BS9W1L9twxyQmLmXv8o8AQ=; b=mu4dqGL5n6QPZxMIEvAIkwBgB4rheRg51xRadhx3ZHlG+4UJCwS1eejihi5ZPamqrG 3ncQDjyoScnb0YULB/EZa/EJj0Q6UjjzeIx7oqZbpu2+pMPajxlE8vbDxV6yjb8rKPJN WesmoEGRW9eZk0ebOV0mZOfolyjQHu6gI7KoI= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.147.198 with SMTP id m6mr5002710vcv.128.1322477414900; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 02:50:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.180.202 with HTTP; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 02:50:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <1322444006.12858.YahooMailNeo@web160915.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 10:50:14 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases From: sebb To: general@incubator.apache.org Cc: "kafka-dev@incubator.apache.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On 28 November 2011 02:56, Chris Douglas wrote: > On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Ross Gardler > wrote: >> I think you missed a very important part of what I said, let me quote >> the para you refer to: > [snip] >> My point is we can't expect the mentors to type everything over and >> over again for every podling, that's why we have docs. We can (and >> should) expect mentors to answer questions and point out errors in the >> application of what is learned from the docs. > > Fair point, though the prevailing IPMC consensus is difficult to > identify and more relevant than the docs. Suffice to say that we'll > update the latter. Doing it on general@ feels like repaving a potholed > road without diverting traffic, but we can try it. > >> This I can agree with. There are other threads underway right now >> addressing this very point. Do you think the proposals floating around >> right now will help address this and provide adequate support to >> mentors? > > I doubt I'm caught up on all the threads, but changing the "champion" > role to be more accountable and enforcing pass/fail for projects in a > sane timeframe sounds like a good start. Chris's idea of identifying > IPMC members with particular specialties- for mentors and PPMC members > to ask questions and get straight answers- would be a welcome service, > also. > > So that the root of this thread is not lost: the Kafka podling is > about to roll its 8th RC, after updating the LICENSE to include the > NUnit requirement. If any IPMC member has other feedback for the last > RC: > > http://s.apache.org/Vnr > > NOW is the time to provide it. -C In which case, I suggest you post a clean message requesting feedback, as this thread does not appear to be the right place for this now. > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org