Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5F8CB9F22 for ; Thu, 24 Nov 2011 17:38:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 18832 invoked by uid 500); 24 Nov 2011 17:38:50 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 18668 invoked by uid 500); 24 Nov 2011 17:38:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 18660 invoked by uid 99); 24 Nov 2011 17:38:49 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 24 Nov 2011 17:38:49 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of rgardler@opendirective.com designates 74.125.82.43 as permitted sender) Received: from [74.125.82.43] (HELO mail-ww0-f43.google.com) (74.125.82.43) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 24 Nov 2011 17:38:44 +0000 Received: by wwo1 with SMTP id 1so4178960wwo.0 for ; Thu, 24 Nov 2011 09:38:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=opendirective.com; s=opendirective; h=mime-version:x-originating-ip:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=3aqzXXykqVzpl21/h9o+dnVS+43VP+QJ1yFW2Q7I9do=; b=HqSpy9Ftzf7s2FCwFN+asN+386OBNIIoi5JnIf2zVzwj2EcUaVOsBws5WSAdQ2IZwE 48htNAO5qNo7mzJI8ljBcltb3CiKHTQ9MAAjCKI4+eXpEaeX5M/KQuLLFHiP0gtGN499 HhYRt/s3TaD5gDXTqA99aFd1B7epPYBLZYgJY= Received: by 10.180.102.4 with SMTP id fk4mr29896055wib.15.1322156303105; Thu, 24 Nov 2011 09:38:23 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.106.104 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Nov 2011 09:38:02 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [86.156.135.215] In-Reply-To: References: <4ECD40CA.7070807@shanecurcuru.org> <002201ccaa2c$896b3810$9c41a830$@acm.org> <20111123223332.GB7686@rectangular.com> <36F9B048-F0A7-404A-AC6D-B8E6F2E0B80F@jpl.nasa.gov> <00cb01ccaacc$e99c80e0$bcd582a0$@acm.org> From: Ross Gardler Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2011 17:38:02 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Clarify the role of the Champion as an "incubation coordinator" (was: should podlings have informal chairs?) To: general@incubator.apache.org, antelder@apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 24 November 2011 17:34, ant elder wrote: > On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Ross Gardler > wrote: >> On 24 November 2011 17:17, Dennis E. Hamilton = wrote: >>> I had hoped that the business of a PPMC-member champion being a VP-elec= t would have just gone away. =A0That coupling is certain to inspire politic= al motivation and purpose. >>> >>> I think that's a terrible trick to play on a PPMC. >> >> I think you may be missing a nuance in the suggestion below. >> >> The chair of a PMC is a VP of the foundation. It is not a role of >> power rather responsibility within the project (although admittedly >> the title can be important outside the ASF - that's the reward for >> some people). >> >> The suggestion below is that at some point during incubation the >> podling should elect their own champion who will take on the >> responsibilities of the champion. > > I've not made up my mind about this proposal, not totally convinced > yet its a good idea though either. > > If a poddling can get it together to elect their own champion aren't > they likely to be about ready to graduate anyway? For me that is exactly why I like the idea. they can lead the graduation process - less work for the mentors ;-) Ross --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org