Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A24EF96FF for ; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 01:41:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 93080 invoked by uid 500); 17 Nov 2011 01:40:59 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 92912 invoked by uid 500); 17 Nov 2011 01:40:59 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 92902 invoked by uid 99); 17 Nov 2011 01:40:59 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 01:40:59 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.7 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (nike.apache.org: domain of sa3ruby@gmail.com designates 209.85.161.175 as permitted sender) Received: from [209.85.161.175] (HELO mail-gx0-f175.google.com) (209.85.161.175) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 17 Nov 2011 01:40:52 +0000 Received: by ggnh4 with SMTP id h4so474561ggn.6 for ; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:40:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=7M/CkIn1OF1MSs+nl8JQjfXTWayr2m/3iDGIfpupsJQ=; b=ujtHm9Nn0oRcd527ySNLXvz+PR9X6esyb+PgmhmuraDDyipPB+jToWEwgh5h2KOipO SdYioPBThY2Xr3vThc0gxoIGYpasUc0UPq5wzJFaleCXUqQz7l9byWiP/h6bYPLPFTAX bilBBvj99br7gBfycfcYDL6Qcdj2Sk0MBvaaA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.242.1 with SMTP id wm1mr39469326igc.30.1321494030714; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:40:30 -0800 (PST) Sender: sa3ruby@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.146.149 with HTTP; Wed, 16 Nov 2011 17:40:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:40:30 -0500 X-Google-Sender-Auth: aULfcR4OJF3XF-vOYkuQkfIdjwM Message-ID: Subject: Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011) From: Sam Ruby To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote: > Hi... > > =C2=A0 The idea sounds good in general more specifically that should be c= lear > and documented on the incubator site for future incubating projects. But, > IMHO, we should categorize projects mentioned in that list from very old = to > recent ones and each group of mentors get in touch with their mentored > projects and get with some feedback about such plan, so we can be more fa= ir > and give people a chance either to do some progress, more specifically fo= r > recent incubated projects and even for the older projects to revive if th= at > is possible. > > Thoughts ? Nobody is proposing immediate expulsion of any PPMC based solely on a metri= c. On the other hand, it should not be a surprise to mentors that they are responsible for[1] "assessment of the Podling status with respect to continuation/exit strategy". Reports for PPMCs that are older than a year should be expected to contain this information. Repeated failure to include such information and/or demonstrate forward progress towards meeting these objectives should cause the Incubator (not the Board!) to take action. - Sam Ruby [1] http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#= Mentor --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org