Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1555A7C6A for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 21:25:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 65304 invoked by uid 500); 27 Nov 2011 21:25:23 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 65092 invoked by uid 500); 27 Nov 2011 21:25:23 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 65084 invoked by uid 99); 27 Nov 2011 21:25:23 -0000 Received: from minotaur.apache.org (HELO minotaur.apache.org) (140.211.11.9) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 21:25:23 +0000 Received: from localhost (HELO mail-ey0-f175.google.com) (127.0.0.1) (smtp-auth username bdelacretaz, mechanism plain) by minotaur.apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 21:25:22 +0000 Received: by eaad13 with SMTP id d13so1442471eaa.6 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:25:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.213.14.77 with SMTP id f13mr456798eba.142.1322429121059; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:25:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.213.35.212 with HTTP; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 13:25:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:25:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Rebooting the Incubator? (was: Does Apache Have a 'Rule' Problem...) From: Bertrand Delacretaz To: general@incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: > ...Let's see if we can find a small group of members of the IPMC who are, > in fact, willing to take seriously the task of supervision.... There is such a group already - even though that might be a small percentage of the IPMC membership (because that PMC is big), there is a sizable group that does take supervision seriously. > > ...If we can build such a group, it would be the logical nucleus of a > reboot. If not, well, we've got other problems... I don't think a reboot is needed. Some specific points need improving (how to cope with missing reports and inactive mentors, more efficient reporting to the board, clarifying our docs) but that doesn't mean the incubator is broken. Working in small, concrete, reversible steps is usually the best way to get things done at the ASF - let's just do that. -Bertrand P.S. Sensationalistic bloggers: if you write about how broken our Incubator is, you owe me a beer for this subject line. Thanks. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org