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Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:32:38 +0100
From: Thilo Goetz <twgoetz@gmx.de>
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Subject: [OT] Hoover is not an adjective,
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On 15/11/11 03:22, Benson Margulies wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 9:20 PM, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 15 November 2011 02:12, Benson Margulies <bimargulies@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> That page is very misleading, and there was a long discussion of this
>>> topic elsewhere.
>>>
>>> Look at the example just above the requirement:
>>>
>>> "The Apache Xerces XML parsing library is easily configurable and
>>> compliant with current standards"
>>>
>>> Yes, in some sense, Xerces is an adjective there, but really what the
>>> senator is trying to say is to construct a particular noun phrase.
>>
>> AIUI, trademarks need to be used as if they are adjectives.
>>
>> For example:
>>
>> The Hoover vacuum cleaner is versatile
>> NOT
>> The Hoover is a versatile vacuum cleaner
> 
> I think I've just discovered that I'm too tired to type. I agree:
> that's an adjective. However, it's really very hard to make sense of
> the requirement without the example, either what you just sent or
> what's on the page.
> 

See subject line.

Feel free to completely ignore this, but the linguist in me
couldn't let this go ;-).  You can verify this by trying to
stick another adjective between Hoover and the rest.  Just
like "car" in "car door" is not an adjective (compare "green
car door" vs. "car green door"), Hoover is not an adjective
in "Hoover vacuum cleaner" (and neither is vacuum).

This might explain why people in a project like OpenNLP are
confused by that sentence on the trademarks page.

--Thilo

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