Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 39D4B7F3A for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 22:48:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 84744 invoked by uid 500); 11 Nov 2011 22:48:52 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 84512 invoked by uid 500); 11 Nov 2011 22:48:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 84504 invoked by uid 99); 11 Nov 2011 22:48:52 -0000 Received: from nike.apache.org (HELO nike.apache.org) (192.87.106.230) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 22:48:52 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (nike.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [217.70.183.196] (HELO relay4-d.mail.gandi.net) (217.70.183.196) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 22:48:44 +0000 X-Originating-IP: 217.70.178.144 Received: from mfilter16-d.gandi.net (mfilter16-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.144]) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A6A5172200 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:48:24 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter16-d.gandi.net Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net ([217.70.183.196]) by mfilter16-d.gandi.net (mfilter16-d.gandi.net [10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5E1xJ9K8xg5B for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:48:22 +0100 (CET) X-Originating-IP: 208.181.48.80 Received: from [208.181.48.80] (unknown [208.181.48.80]) (Authenticated sender: jb@nanthrax.net) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1A91B17209A for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:48:21 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4EBDA62B.4080701@nanthrax.net> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:48:11 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Baptiste_Onofr=E9?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20110929 Thunderbird/7.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL][RFC] Fediz for the Apache Incubator References: <4EAFBA3A.9020802@nanthrax.net> <7260BD87-F608-4369-A354-E5C6C75E09F4@webthing.com> In-Reply-To: <7260BD87-F608-4369-A354-E5C6C75E09F4@webthing.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Hi Nick, sorry for my late answer, I was busy with the ApacheCon presentation. The current Fediz codebase doesn't support OID/OAuth. Of course, it=20 could be interested to support it, by implementing it or by leveraging=20 existing implementations. Some pointer about OID/OAuth: - OID/OAuth doesn't support claims based authorization. - OID/OAuth doesn't address end-to-end security where identities can be=20 propagated from a SSO enabled web application to the web services. WS-Federation is supported by Identity Providers like OpenAM, IBM=20 Tivoli, Microsoft ADFS, Oracle but there is no support for it in Tomcat,=20 Karaf, or JBoss for instance. I hope it answers to your question. Regards JB On 11/03/2011 12:25 PM, Nick Kew wrote: > > On 1 Nov 2011, at 09:22, Jean-Baptiste Onofr=E9 wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I would like to propose Fediz to be an Apache Incubator project. > > As others have pointed out, this looks like some familiar technologies. > > We know that OpenID is widely supported, by web client, server and > application software, and some of the biggest providers. OpenAuth > perhaps less so, but they're spoken of as a pair. > > How about a proper exposition of: > - Does Fediz include an implementaion of OID/OAuth? > - If yes, does it do other things too, and what's the motivation? > How would you react to accusations of "embrace and extend"? > - If no, why should we want another, competing framework/standard? > - If no, where is it in fact supported in the real world? > > I think we should see these issues properly addressed in the proposal! > --=20 Jean-Baptiste Onofr=E9 jbonofre@apache.org http://blog.nanthrax.net Talend - http://www.talend.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org