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From Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)
Date Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:48:02 GMT
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Noel J. Bergman <noel@devtech.com> wrote:
> Excellent plot chart.  As with most plot charts, the end result is a
> Rorschach test.  I'll tell you what I (personally) see in this chart:
> a failure to perform garbage collection.  My personal perspective is
> that incubation shouldn't generally take more than a year.  That
> doesn't mean that there won't be exceptions, and in a few rare cases,
> some that go well beyond that arbitrary time limit, but the point is
> that those should be the exception rather than the rule.
>
> Looking at the current list of projects, we have many that exceed that
> number.  Far exceed that number.  In fact the median age is 416 days
> and the mean age is 536.
>
> People here may disagree with my arbitrary date, and that's OK.  But
> my feeling is that there needs to be an expectation that a podling
> produces AT THE VERY MINIMUM a credible plan that they are executing
> on which will lead to graduation at some point.  If they fail to
> produce such a plan, or fail to execute on that plan (within reason),
> they should be asked to explain themselves.  If they fail to do so,
> the incubation at the ASF should cease.

+1

> At the moment, the expectation is that the mentors be the ones to take
> up this task.  For whatever reason, that isn't reliably being done.
> This causes the board to complain periodically.  I am of the belief
> that the first level of culling needs to be performed at the Incubator
> level.  If we need to appoint a set of grim reapers, lets do so, and I
> will volunteer to be a part of such an effort.

+1

I observe several podlings and sometimes I have the feeling that
Mentors are not very active. In addition I welcome such a grim reaper
committee.

I would suggest a semi automatic process for projects who fail to
report (as suggested today). One of the mentors should explain why the
report has failed.

> Meanwhile, I will personally focus on JSPWiki.  If others wish to join
> me, here is a a current list of projects that have been incubating
> more than a year:

On the report is Stonehenge mentioned for garbage collection.
I spoke to Zeta people today, I still get responses there. Discussion
is, how things can be improved. I would leave them there and let's
hope, situation is fixed soon.

Deltacloud has graduated and can be put off from your list.
Rat is discussing graduation and should be moved from the list too.

On the other projects I can't tell much.

Therefore I am for +1 to start retiring discussion on JSPWiki and Stonehenge

Cheers

>
> 2007-09-17 JSPWiki
> 2008-01-06 RAT
> 2008-05-20 Hama
> 2008-07-08 Empire-db
> 2008-08-19 PhotArk
> 2008-09-02 Etch
> 2008-09-04 Tashi
> 2008-09-29 Olio
> 2008-10-06 VCL
> 2008-10-09 Droids
> 2008-11-06 Kato
> 2008-11-19 Stonehenge
> 2009-04-24 Ace
> 2009-05-27 Wink
> 2009-07-06 VXQuery
> 2009-07-17 Wookie
> 2009-11-05 HISE
> 2009-11-27 Clerezza
> 2010-01-10 Manifold Connector Framework (ManifoldCF)
> 2010-02-21 SIS
> 2010-03-01 Bean Validation
> 2010-05-09 Amber
> 2010-05-19 Deltacloud
> 2010-05-21 Zeta Components
> 2010-06-24 Nuvem
> 2010-07-14 Chukwa
> 2010-07-22 Lucy
> 2010-08-13 NPanday
> 2010-09-07 Isis
> 2010-09-26 Gora
> 2010-10-03 Kitty
> 2010-11-02 Celix
> 2010-11-15 Stanbol
>
> - Sam Ruby
>
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