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From Christian Grobmeier <>
Subject Re: Rebooting the Incubator? (was: Does Apache Have a 'Rule' Problem...)
Date Mon, 28 Nov 2011 06:52:23 GMT
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:25 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
<> wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Benson Margulies <> wrote:
>> ...Let's see if we can find a small group of members of the IPMC who are,
>> in fact, willing to take seriously the task of supervision....
> There is such a group already - even though that might be a small
> percentage of the IPMC membership (because that PMC is big), there is
> a sizable group that does take supervision seriously.

Yes, I estimate 10 or maybe 15. There are more than 100 IPMC members
subscribed. You could say we have an activity ratio of 10%, if my
estimation is correct.

>> ...If we can build such a group, it would be the logical nucleus of a
>> reboot. If not, well, we've got other problems...
> I don't think a reboot is needed. Some specific points need improving
> (how to cope with missing reports and inactive mentors, more efficient
> reporting to the board, clarifying our docs) but that doesn't mean the
> incubator is broken.
> Working in small, concrete, reversible steps is usually the best way
> to get things done at the ASF - let's just do that.

Some of them easily reversible, some not so easy to reverse. But all concrete:
But all uncommented.


> -Bertrand
> P.S. Sensationalistic bloggers: if you write about how broken our
> Incubator is, you  owe me a beer for this subject line. Thanks.
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