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From sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator
Date Mon, 21 Nov 2011 14:46:40 GMT
On 21 November 2011 14:41, ant elder <antelder@apache.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Karl Pauls <karlpauls@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 3:08 PM, ant elder <antelder@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Well IMHO i don't think this release demonstrates that the poddling
>>> has an understanding of making or reviewing ASF releases and thats the
>>> point of requiring releases during incubation.
>>
>> So you want us to do a new release? Fine, whatever, we can just roll a
>> new release which has the source distribution configured. That was a
>> mistake in the first place as it makes the bundles not easily
>> individually buildable.
>>
>> However, we still will not have a combined source release as we want
>> to be able to release our bundles individually. Is that the resolution
>> then? All we have to do is a do a micro release with the source
>> distribution configured on a per artifact level?
>>
>
> I agree the requirement for a single source release doesn't seem
> totally clear, I've said I think you should have one and so has sebb,
> it would be good to hear what other Incubator PMC people think. I
> think you need one for two main reasons:
>
> 1) The ASF deals with source and the releases are how users get hold
> of that source. If a user is going to do development with the released
> ACE source they likely aren't going to be able to do very much useful
> with just single things like org.apache.ace.repository.imp. At the
> very least they're probably going to want
> org.apache.ace.repository.api too but likely there is a big network of
> the 60 something ACE modules that anyone doing most non-trivial ACE
> development is going to want. One source distribution makes this easy,
> making them have to download them all separately isn't particularly
> practical. That https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ace/trunk/
> is structured so the ASF committers can work with them as one single
> buildable checkout i think shows thats true.
>
> 2) If there is only individually buildable source for each jar how are
> people really going to verify that the release is actually buildable
> and the artifacts match the SVN tag source when reviewing and voting
> on release votes? No one reviewing is really likely to download 60
> separate distros and build them all one by one are they?
>
>   ...ant

+1, agree totally, was just composing a similar reply.

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