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From sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [policy] release vetoes?
Date Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:52:32 GMT
On 28 November 2011 19:21, William A. Rowe Jr. <wrowe@rowe-clan.net> wrote:
> On 11/28/2011 1:00 PM, Neha Narkhede wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That is because, every single time, the RM agreed that the release
>>>> was worth re-cutting.
>>
>>
>> We have been assuming that it is the rule of Apache to cut another RC even
>> if it gets a single -1 vote.
>
>
> And that isn't correct, as Joe was kind enough to point out.
>
>>>> A majority of +1's over -1's is required, obviously :)
>>
>>
>> Although this seems reasonable, do people on this list believe this to be
>> true according to the Apache rulebook ?
>>
>> In other words, can the podling RM and committers question and contest a
>> -1
>> vote ? Is there any possibility of vetoing that ? If yes, who can do that
>> in what circumstances ?
>
>
> Yes - you may always try to persuade someone who voted -1 to reconsider,
> especially by providing more information.  For a code veto, that could
> include the fact that they failed to make a technical argument.  Once they
> have a technical basis, you can't "dispute" it even if you disagree with
> it, it remains a veto.  But always try to negotiate towards mutually
> agreeable code!
>
> No - nobody can veto a release.  But you also can't slip in a vetoed patch
> and say "this is a release vote, its not subject to veto".  Well, as I had
> hinted, the RM can withdraw a vote, which is sort of like a self-veto.
>
> http://httpd.apache.org/dev/release.html was just recently revised by
> Roy Fielding (ASF Director and founding officer) based on some nonsense
> back-channel complaints, and might be worth integrating into incubator
> docs.

Would it not be better to integrate the clarifications into an
ASF-wide document?

>
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