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From sebb <seb...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator
Date Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:34:54 GMT
On 17 November 2011 12:51, Guillaume Nodet <gnodet@gmail.com> wrote:
> As much as I don't like this layout, this is not the first projet to use
> it, and I don't really see how / why the IPMC should decide the svn layout
> for the project.   You won't be the one to manage it daily afaik, so that's
> not up to you to decide imho.

The SVN layout is less of a concern, although the lack of a single tag
for a release is odd.
Not all of the files in SVN trunk appear in releases/

> Sling and Felix already use such a layout and they are both TLP, so I
> really don't see that as a problem.

> On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 13:07, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 17 November 2011 10:42, Marcel Offermans <marcel.offermans@luminis.nl>
>> wrote:
>> > In my opinion, ACE is ready to begin the process of graduating from the
>> Apache Incubator to a Top Level Project.
>> >
>> > Since joining the incubator in in May 2009 we've added 4 new committers
>> (12 in total now) from diverse organizations and did a release in May this
>> year to demonstrate we follow the Apache guidelines. We've shown an ability
>> to self-govern using accepted Apache practices and ACE continues to attract
>> new contributors and users.
>> >
>> > The first step is to vote as a community, demonstrating that ACE is
>> ready and willing to graduate. Once this vote is succesful we create a
>> board resolution proposal or Charter and start a vote on the general
>> incubator list. The full process is described at
>> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel
>> >
>> > The vote is open for at least 72 hours.
>>
>> The last (and only) release was 0.8, as far as I can tell.
>>
>> There is no KEYS file in http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ace/,
>> and there does not appear to be a full source archive of the project
>> anywhere.
>> The download page does not have a link to any source archives as far
>> as I can tell.
>> It does link to KEYS in SVN, but almost all other ASF projects have a
>> copy of KEYS in the appropriate /dist directory.
>>
>> Normally releases are divided into binaries/ and source/ directories,
>> with a KEYS file in the top-level, i.e.
>>
>> /dist/incubator/ace
>> - KEYS
>> - binaries/ace ....zip
>> - sources/ace....zip
>>
>> Most of the files in the /dist/incubator/ace directory appear to be
>> Maven artifacts; normally these are not stored in /dist but only in
>> the Maven repo.
>> Indeed most of the files are also in Maven Central. The only non-Maven
>> files appear to be
>>
>> org.apache.ace.target.devgateway-0.8.0-incubator-distribution.zip
>> org.apache.ace.target.devserver-0.8.0-incubator-distribution.zip
>>
>> neither of which contains the source.
>>
>> I would expect the above zips to be in
>>
>> /dist/incubator/ace/binaries
>>
>> with corresponding source files in
>>
>> /dist/incubator/ace/source
>>
>> The SVN layout [1] is also a bit unusual.
>> There is no tags/ directory for release tags, although there is a
>> releases/ directory containing individual entries for each release for
>> each component.
>> This is likely to become unmanageable very quickly, if every release
>> adds another 63 directory entries under releases/
>>
>> [1] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ace/
>>
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>
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