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From Robert Burrell Donkin <>
Subject Re: Rebooting the Incubator? (was: Does Apache Have a 'Rule' Problem...)
Date Sun, 27 Nov 2011 21:48:39 GMT
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz
<> wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Benson Margulies <> wrote:
>> ...Let's see if we can find a small group of members of the IPMC who are,
>> in fact, willing to take seriously the task of supervision....
> There is such a group already - even though that might be a small
> percentage of the IPMC membership (because that PMC is big), there is
> a sizable group that does take supervision seriously.


I worry that we now spend too little time working together. And that
this means we're losing our sense of community. I wonder whether
starting to meet F2F might be useful.

>> ...If we can build such a group, it would be the logical nucleus of a
>> reboot. If not, well, we've got other problems...
> I don't think a reboot is needed. Some specific points need improving
> (how to cope with missing reports and inactive mentors, more efficient
> reporting to the board, clarifying our docs) but that doesn't mean the
> incubator is broken.


One lesson I've learned over the last few months is that to live, the
Incubator needs to continue to grow and evolve. Only by working
together to improve our imperfect do we feel like a community. We
should be more open to new ideas and experiments: if they don't work
out, we can always roll them back again.

> Working in small, concrete, reversible steps is usually the best way
> to get things done at the ASF - let's just do that.


> P.S. Sensationalistic bloggers: if you write about how broken our
> Incubator is, you  owe me a beer for this subject line. Thanks.



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