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From Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com>
Subject RE: [PROPOSAL] Clarify the role of the Champion as an "incubation coordinator" (was: should podlings have informal chairs?)
Date Fri, 25 Nov 2011 07:57:58 GMT
Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
On Nov 25, 2011 5:41 AM, "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>
wrote:
>
> Ross,
>
> I don't see the champion (who is at least a mentor) and an informal PPMC
chair somehow selected among the PPMC members as interchangeable or
equivalent.  My concern was, to the extent that view exists (and I may
simply be confused), I don't get it.
>
> I'd be happy to learn that I have misunderstood some of the positions
expressed.

OK,I get your concern now. I had assumed that mentors would not agree to a
non-IPMC champion who is not ready.

Further, it was stated that the champion need not be a mentor.

The role of the champion is nothing more than a coordination role, it
doesn't require any specific skills other than to understand what needs top
go in a board report and when. Until graduation mentors are still available
to guide.

Perhaps the proposal needs to make it explicit that the initial champion is
the one to call a vote for the first non-IPMC champion and that this is am
important step on the road to graduation.

Ross

>
>  - Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ross Gardler [mailto:rgardler@opendirective.com]
> Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 11:26
> To: dennis.hamilton@acm.org; general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [PROPOSAL] Clarify the role of the Champion as an
"incubation coordinator" (was: should podlings have informal chairs?)
>
> Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
> On Nov 24, 2011 5:59 PM, "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamilton@acm.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > I understand about PMC chairs, but I thought that is for a TLP and
> happens at
> > Podling graduation.
>
> The official role of PMC  chair is created upon graduation, yes. But the
> responsibilities the role carries start once incubation starts. At present
> nobody l owns those responsibilities during graduation.
>
> >
> > Having PPMC chairs is a different story, and I hope I was careful not to
> > confuse the two.  I also don't want to collapse champion and PPMC chair
in
> > some way.  I still favor the one and not the other.  I have no need to
say
> > more about that.
> >
>
> I'm confused, and therefore request more info about your concern. The two
> roles, as I understand them are essentially the same (once incubation
> starts).  I don't see any significant differences and thus don't see any
> "collapse" of two roles into one. Can you point to the differences you
> perceive?
>
> Ross
>
> > Clarifying the role of champion is certainly a good idea.
> >
> [ ... ]
>
>
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