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From ant elder <ant.el...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)
Date Mon, 21 Nov 2011 02:11:07 GMT
On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 9:09 AM, Robert Burrell Donkin
<robertburrelldonkin@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 6:23 AM, Henri Yandell <flamefew@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Noel J. Bergman <noel@devtech.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We are, however, recognizing that we've had growth issues of our own.  As
>>>> David Crossley pointed out, he made mistakes last month related to the
>>>> Reporting Schedule, and we continue to have issues.  The Incubator is almost
>>>> as big as the rest of the ASF combined.  David posted a plot chart
>>>> reflecting our growth: http://incubator.apache.org/history/
>>>
>>> Excellent plot chart.  As with most plot charts, the end result is a
>>> Rorschach test.  I'll tell you what I (personally) see in this chart:
>>> a failure to perform garbage collection.  My personal perspective is
>>> that incubation shouldn't generally take more than a year.  That
>>> doesn't mean that there won't be exceptions, and in a few rare cases,
>>> some that go well beyond that arbitrary time limit, but the point is
>>> that those should be the exception rather than the rule.
>
> Sometimes when you turn up the heat and reduce the cooking time, the
> pies end up being half baked...
>

I agree with that and also with Benson's comments about size and
growth often being one of the barriers to graduation. A number of the
long term poddlings don't have a very diverse or even three active
committers, if theres a threat of expulsion because of that they'll
probably just start making any old person a committer just to make up
the numbers.

   ...ant

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