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From Luciano Resende <luckbr1...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Actively retiring projects (was: Incubator Board Report November 2011)
Date Sun, 20 Nov 2011 16:11:18 GMT
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Sam Ruby <rubys@intertwingly.net> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:41 PM, Noel J. Bergman <noel@devtech.com> wrote:
>>
>> We are, however, recognizing that we've had growth issues of our own.  As
>> David Crossley pointed out, he made mistakes last month related to the
>> Reporting Schedule, and we continue to have issues.  The Incubator is almost
>> as big as the rest of the ASF combined.  David posted a plot chart
>> reflecting our growth: http://incubator.apache.org/history/
>
> Excellent plot chart.  As with most plot charts, the end result is a
> Rorschach test.  I'll tell you what I (personally) see in this chart:
> a failure to perform garbage collection.  My personal perspective is
> that incubation shouldn't generally take more than a year.  That
> doesn't mean that there won't be exceptions, and in a few rare cases,
> some that go well beyond that arbitrary time limit, but the point is
> that those should be the exception rather than the rule.
>
> Looking at the current list of projects, we have many that exceed that
> number.  Far exceed that number.  In fact the median age is 416 days
> and the mean age is 536.
>
> People here may disagree with my arbitrary date, and that's OK.  But
> my feeling is that there needs to be an expectation that a podling
> produces AT THE VERY MINIMUM a credible plan that they are executing
> on which will lead to graduation at some point.  If they fail to
> produce such a plan, or fail to execute on that plan (within reason),
> they should be asked to explain themselves.  If they fail to do so,
> the incubation at the ASF should cease.
>
> At the moment, the expectation is that the mentors be the ones to take
> up this task.  For whatever reason, that isn't reliably being done.
> This causes the board to complain periodically.  I am of the belief
> that the first level of culling needs to be performed at the Incubator
> level.  If we need to appoint a set of grim reapers, lets do so, and I
> will volunteer to be a part of such an effort.
>
> Meanwhile, I will personally focus on JSPWiki.  If others wish to join
> me, here is a a current list of projects that have been incubating
> more than a year:
>
> 2007-09-17 JSPWiki
> 2008-01-06 RAT
> 2008-05-20 Hama
> 2008-07-08 Empire-db
> 2008-08-19 PhotArk
> 2008-09-02 Etch
> 2008-09-04 Tashi
> 2008-09-29 Olio
> 2008-10-06 VCL
> 2008-10-09 Droids
> 2008-11-06 Kato
> 2008-11-19 Stonehenge
> 2009-04-24 Ace
> 2009-05-27 Wink
> 2009-07-06 VXQuery
> 2009-07-17 Wookie
> 2009-11-05 HISE
> 2009-11-27 Clerezza
> 2010-01-10 Manifold Connector Framework (ManifoldCF)
> 2010-02-21 SIS
> 2010-03-01 Bean Validation
> 2010-05-09 Amber
> 2010-05-19 Deltacloud
> 2010-05-21 Zeta Components
> 2010-06-24 Nuvem
> 2010-07-14 Chukwa
> 2010-07-22 Lucy
> 2010-08-13 NPanday
> 2010-09-07 Isis
> 2010-09-26 Gora
> 2010-10-03 Kitty
> 2010-11-02 Celix
> 2010-11-15 Stanbol
>
> - Sam Ruby
>

Maybe I've had been using a high bar with the podlings I
mentor/participate. I'll look into graduating couple podlings after I
come back from Thanks Giving : Apache PhotArk, Apache Wink.


-- 
Luciano Resende
http://people.apache.org/~lresende
http://twitter.com/lresende1975
http://lresende.blogspot.com/

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