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From Guillaume Nodet <gno...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Graduate ACE from the Apache Incubator
Date Thu, 17 Nov 2011 14:45:32 GMT
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 14:30, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 17 November 2011 12:29, Karl Pauls <karlpauls@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm not sure what this has to do with the graduation vote. The release
> > as such has been accepted by the incubator pmc and there only need to
> > be one release. The source for each artifact is there, it is just per
> > artifact in the -source.jar.
>
> AFAICT the full source (as in SVN trunk) is not actually present in
> the distribution directory.
>
> For example, where are the top-level files in SVN (BUILDING, README) ?
> And the etc/ directory?
>
> If I wanted to build any or all of the components, there does not
> appear to be a way to do this from the files in the distribution.
>

The svn tree is not supposed to be a source distribution so looking at it
as a buildable thing is not required.


> > There might be different set-up then a lot of other projects have it
> > but we release our stuff on a per artifact basis how it is done by for
> > example Apache Felix as well and never has been an issue (and didn't
> > become unmanageably either -  also ymmv).
>
> The ASF primarily releases source; releases must include full source.
>

I agree on the first part, but not the *full* source.
 @ace you should look at the felix way which always include a source
distribution for each bundle.


>
> > I agree about the KEYS file. We should have uploaded it to the dist
> > dir as well but at least we have it at some place so it should be easy
> > to fix.
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Karl
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 1:07 PM, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 17 November 2011 10:42, Marcel Offermans <
> marcel.offermans@luminis.nl> wrote:
> >>> In my opinion, ACE is ready to begin the process of graduating from
> the Apache Incubator to a Top Level Project.
> >>>
> >>> Since joining the incubator in in May 2009 we've added 4 new
> committers (12 in total now) from diverse organizations and did a release
> in May this year to demonstrate we follow the Apache guidelines. We've
> shown an ability to self-govern using accepted Apache practices and ACE
> continues to attract new contributors and users.
> >>>
> >>> The first step is to vote as a community, demonstrating that ACE is
> ready and willing to graduate. Once this vote is succesful we create a
> board resolution proposal or Charter and start a vote on the general
> incubator list. The full process is described at
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#toplevel
> >>>
> >>> The vote is open for at least 72 hours.
> >>
> >> The last (and only) release was 0.8, as far as I can tell.
> >>
> >> There is no KEYS file in http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ace/,
> >> and there does not appear to be a full source archive of the project
> >> anywhere.
> >> The download page does not have a link to any source archives as far
> >> as I can tell.
> >> It does link to KEYS in SVN, but almost all other ASF projects have a
> >> copy of KEYS in the appropriate /dist directory.
> >>
> >> Normally releases are divided into binaries/ and source/ directories,
> >> with a KEYS file in the top-level, i.e.
> >>
> >> /dist/incubator/ace
> >> - KEYS
> >> - binaries/ace ....zip
> >> - sources/ace....zip
> >>
> >> Most of the files in the /dist/incubator/ace directory appear to be
> >> Maven artifacts; normally these are not stored in /dist but only in
> >> the Maven repo.
> >> Indeed most of the files are also in Maven Central. The only non-Maven
> >> files appear to be
> >>
> >> org.apache.ace.target.devgateway-0.8.0-incubator-distribution.zip
> >> org.apache.ace.target.devserver-0.8.0-incubator-distribution.zip
> >>
> >> neither of which contains the source.
> >>
> >> I would expect the above zips to be in
> >>
> >> /dist/incubator/ace/binaries
> >>
> >> with corresponding source files in
> >>
> >> /dist/incubator/ace/source
> >>
> >> The SVN layout [1] is also a bit unusual.
> >> There is no tags/ directory for release tags, although there is a
> >> releases/ directory containing individual entries for each release for
> >> each component.
> >> This is likely to become unmanageable very quickly, if every release
> >> adds another 63 directory entries under releases/
> >>
> >> [1] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ace/
> >>
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Karl Pauls
> > karlpauls@gmail.com
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