On Nov 21, 2011, at 10:55 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>
> I suggest we get back to figuring out exactly what problem we are
> trying to solve before we start looking for appropriate labels to
> attach to the role(s) we need.
+1.
Cheers,
Chris
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>
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>> From: sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com>
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 1:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: should podlings have informal chairs?
>>
>> On 21 November 2011 18:22, Scott Deboy <scott.deboy@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> What about getting rid of the word 'champion'? Seems like there
>> are two
>>> roles: the Member(s) which backed the proposal to enter the incubator, and
>>> a Coordinator.
>>
>> I think Champion is a good name, especially for the pre-podling phase.
>>
>> Seems to me it often takes more than a mere Coordinator to ensure that
>> the proposal reaches the vote to accept a podling.
>>
>> For the current issue - ensuring podlings don't get lost on the way to
>> graduation - maybe a "shepherd" is needed.
>>
>> But I still think the original Champion could be tasked with the role.
>> If they were keep enough to act as Champion to ensure that the project
>> was accepted as a podling, one would hope they would be keen to ensure
>> that the podling eventually graduates.
>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Ross Gardler
>> <rgardler@opendirective.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 21 November 2011 16:47, Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> Personally I am against the idea of picking a chair
>>>>> for a podling early.
>>>>
>>>> That's not the proposal, although it was suggested and I believe
>>>> rejected (for reasons similar to the ones you gave), at least I've
>> not
>>>> seen any support for it.
>>>>
>>>> The proposal is as the subject says "an informal chair". The
>> name
>>>> seems to have moved to champion in order to avoid any impression of
>>>> leadership.
>>>>
>>>> The responsibilities would be to the Incubator PMC to ensure that the
>>>> project is progressing rather than struggling with busy elsewhere or
>>>> inactive mentors.
>>>>
>>>> Does your concern extend to this role?
>>>>
>>>> Ross
>>>>
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