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From "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <chris.a.mattm...@jpl.nasa.gov>
Subject Re: should podlings have informal chairs?
Date Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:59:50 GMT
On Nov 21, 2011, at 10:55 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> 
> I suggest we get back to figuring out exactly what problem we are
> trying to solve before we start looking for appropriate labels to
> attach to the role(s) we need.

+1.

Cheers,
Chris

> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com>
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Cc: 
>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 1:49 PM
>> Subject: Re: should podlings have informal chairs?
>> 
>> On 21 November 2011 18:22, Scott Deboy <scott.deboy@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> What about getting rid of the word 'champion'?  Seems like there 
>> are two
>>> roles: the Member(s) which backed the proposal to enter the incubator, and
>>> a Coordinator.
>> 
>> I think Champion is a good name, especially for the pre-podling phase.
>> 
>> Seems to me it often takes more than a mere Coordinator to ensure that
>> the proposal reaches the vote to accept a podling.
>> 
>> For the current issue - ensuring podlings don't get lost on the way to
>> graduation - maybe a "shepherd" is needed.
>> 
>> But I still think the original Champion could be tasked with the role.
>> If they were keep enough to act as Champion to ensure that the project
>> was accepted as a podling, one would hope they would be keen to ensure
>> that the podling eventually graduates.
>> 
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Nov 21, 2011 at 9:06 AM, Ross Gardler 
>> <rgardler@opendirective.com>wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 21 November 2011 16:47, Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com> 
>> wrote:
>>>>> Personally I am against the idea of picking a chair
>>>>> for a podling early.
>>>> 
>>>> That's not the proposal, although it was suggested and I believe
>>>> rejected (for reasons similar to the ones you gave), at least I've 
>> not
>>>> seen any support for it.
>>>> 
>>>> The proposal is as the subject says "an informal chair". The 
>> name
>>>> seems to have moved to champion in order to avoid any impression of
>>>> leadership.
>>>> 
>>>> The responsibilities would be to the Incubator PMC to ensure that the
>>>> project is progressing rather than struggling with busy elsewhere or
>>>> inactive mentors.
>>>> 
>>>> Does your concern extend to this role?
>>>> 
>>>> Ross
>>>> 
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