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From German Grekhov <german.grek...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [VOTE] Accept Openmeetings to Apache Incubator
Date Thu, 10 Nov 2011 01:55:58 GMT

+1


Andrus Adamchik wrote:
> 
> Opemeetings proposal has been discussed a few times here before. The group
> of developers behind it worked hard (and succeeded) to address all
> potential obstacles to the Incubator acceptance and to the following
> incubation. They even went an extra mile and collected all ICLAs in
> adbvance.
> 
> So now I am starting the vote to accept Openmeetings to Apache Incubator.
> 
> The proposal is also available at:
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/OpenmeetingsProposal
> 
> Please cast your votes:
> 
> [ ] +1 Accept Openmeetings for incubation
> [ ] +0 Don't care
> [ ] -1 Reject for the following reason:
> 
> The vote is open for 72 hours.
> 
> Andrus
> 
> ---------------
> Andrus Adamchik
> Apache Cayenne ORM: http://cayenne.apache.org/
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/andrus_a
> 
> 
> 
> -------
> 
> == OpenMeetings Project Proposal ==
> 
> == Abstract ==
> Openmeetings is a web conferencing solution.
> 
> == Proposal ==
> Openmeetings provides video conferencing, instant messaging, white board,
> collaborative document editing and other groupware tools using API
> functions of the Red5 Streaming Server for Remoting and Streaming.
> 
> == Background ==
> Openmeetings was developed since 2007 by Sebastian Wagner and willing
> developers. The project ships a release approximately once per quarter. It
> was developed using LGPL license, and developers are currently thinking of
> re-licensing it under Apache License 2.0.
> 
> The project started as module by Sebastian Wagner for an ELearning
> platform (Dokeos) and was then split into a separated project. That is the
> reason why there is a strong relation to educational institutions that are
> using OpenMeetings and there are integrations for platforms like Moodle,
> ATutor, Sakai, STudIP or ILias available
> (http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/MoodlePlugins). The relation
> to educational institutions also subsequently lead to some projects funded
> by the EU where OpenMeetings was involved, for example by the
> Swedish/Finnish Centre of Open-Source !OpenKarken (Case-Study about the EU
> project at OSOR.eu:
> http://www.osor.eu/studies/finland-and-sweden-collaborate-using-oss )
> 
> The integration and internationalization of the project was a primary
> focus right from the start of the project. Since Version 0.5 there is a
> Language-Editor
> (http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/LanguageEditor) to edit
> labels, export and import them as XML and you can use those XML files for
> future installations (or contribute it to the community). There are
> currently around 30 languages available.  Since version 0.5.1 there is
> also a SOAP API to integrate !OpenMeetings. We constantly improve this
> SOAP/REST API (http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/SoapMethods)
> with new functionality with a strong focus on security and usability. The
> auth-mechnism is quite similar to OAuth, you create some token and then
> assign rights to the token. (Documentation for Single Sign On:
> http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/DirectLoginSoapGeneralFlow)
> 
> The project name "!OpenMeetings" and logos are inspired by Ludovic Gasc
> who has been the project manager at Dokeos at the time Sebastian split
> !OpenMeetings as separated project.
> 
> Red5 Server provides an "Edge-Orion-Clustering"
> (http://trac.red5.org/wiki/Documentation/Tutorials/EdgeOriginClusteringConfiguration).

> We hope to extend this clustering solution with support for rtmpt and 
> rtmps and integrate that into our application as native clustering 
> option.
> 
> == Rationale ==
> Last year most major vendors started commercial web conferencing
> solutions. This is an important part of software ecosystem, and there is
> an urge to consolidate open source development efforts in this direction.
> 
> According to several studies demand for synchronous Communication, in
> opposite to asynchronous Communication like wiki's or email, will raise
> the upcoming years. For example Gartner promises that 2011 the market will
> grow 20% according to their "Magic Quadrant" report 2010 (
> http://www.gartner.com/DisplayDocument?doc_cd=205941 ).
> 
> Openmeetings is a unique solution in terms of patent purity and
> potentially can grow into solution built on top of the fully open source
> stack. That is why it is a good candidate for consolidating web
> conferencing community efforts.
> 
> == Initial Goals ==
> Each of project committers has their own set of goals, but we all share
> the following.
> 
>  * Move to Apache.
>  * Become popular.
> 
> To become popular we plan to do the following.
> 
>  * Improve ecosystem around the project.
>  * Improve release process.
>  * Improve project testing and stability.
>  * Apply modular architecture/SOA for better integration with other
> projects.
> 
> == Current Status ==
> We have agreed on applying for the Apache Foundation and preparing our
> proposal for the vote.
> 
> Technical status of the project is: Current stable tree is 1.8.x, Trunk is
> 1.9.
> 
> === Meritocracy ===
> Developers community is successfully driven by consensus now. If there are
> more developers on board, consensus may turn into meritocracy.
> 
> === Community ===
> The developer community is active. The mailing list is active with dozens
> of messages every day, mostly user support topics.
> 
> Currently the User Mailing list has over 1000 members, the dev-list has
> around 250.
> 
> === Core Developers ===
> Sebastian has started the application 07/2006. Current development team
> counts 21 programmers from Germany, Russia, China, India and South
> America.
> 
> === Alignment ===
> The project provides a safe ground for Apache for entering a complex field
> of video streaming. It avoids complex patenting issues by using
> proprietary Adobe Flash. From the other side it may grow into independent
> solution because it uses OpenLaszlo RIA framework rather than a particular
> proprietary vendor language, and after framework evolves can use other
> frontend representations such as javascript.
> 
> == Known Risks ==
> === Orphaned Projects ===
> Openmeetings project has developed a sufficient functionality to be a
> popular solution for a small businesses. The number of site visits of the
> googlecode project website increased to 50.000 in October 2011 which is a
> good sign of people interest. The overall statistics for the last 4 years
> shows around 4 mio pageviews (google-analytics
> graphic:http://wagner-sebastian.com/_log/website.png).  We believe that
> visitors convert to users, and users convert to developers in some
> standard rate.
> 
> === Inexperience With Open Source ===
> Two committers have GSoC experience. One committer is an Apache committer.
> The project exists since 07/2008 already as an open source project hosted
> at !GoogleCode http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings
> 
> === Reliance On Salaried Developers ===
> Some contributors get paid from Openmeetings-based consultancy.
> 
> === Relationships with Other Apache Products ===
> Web application part of Openmeetings runs under Apache Tomcat. It uses
> Apache Commons and Apache Velocity. Red5 server uses a lot of Apache
> components, including Apache Mina. !OpenMeetings itself uses Apache Axis2
> for the SOAP / REST API. !OpenMeetings was reworked to use Apache OpenJPA
> instead of Hibernate. Since revision 4000 (version 1.8) all dependencies
> to Hibernate have been removed from the source.
> 
> === An Excessive Fascination with the Apache Brand ===
> The Apache Foundation is the home of vendor neutral and industry standard
> software. By joining the Foundation we will apply Apache's Release and
> Licensing Standards to our product. Doing that we will improve our release
> processes, quality standards and it should give a planning reliability to
> our end users. But our main motivation is that our project is about
> collaboration, communication and enabling people to easily interact with
> each other. We think that the "Apache Way" of community driven software
> development with flat hierarchy and transparency in decision and design
> will reflect best those core activities of our software.
> 
> Well, or course we want our project to be alive, and useful. Several
> contributors have former experience with Apache Harmony project (which
> previously has been known as SourceForge ORP project). Apache brand is
> really helpful compared to SourceForge brand for community building and
> getting support from commercial companies. From the other side
> org.apache.harmony story shows that the brand cannot help when there no
> community remain. Hence we try to keep people interested, and the product
> developed at the first place, thus supporting Apache brand fame with good
> facts.
> 
> == Initial Source ==
>  * http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/
> 
> === External Dependencies ===
> Adobe Flash (by means of !OpenLaszlo) and open source projects compliant
> with current Apache policy. The UI code is compiled by using !OpenLaszlo,
> not by using Adobe products. !OpenLaszlo is licenced under the CPL.
> !OpenLaszlo's concept is that you write the code in a XML based approach,
> it is possible to compile the output to Flash or DHTML/HTML5. So on the
> long run it might be possible to replace the Flash UI with a DHTML one.
> But as there is little multimedia support in HTML5 especially for Webcam
> and Microphone access it is not possible yet to prevent using Flash in
> general. The needed Real-Time Communication could be done using Ajax and
> HTTP-Push mechanisms like Comet instead of AMF which is currently used.
> 
> For Flash Streaming Red5 is used ( http://code.google.com/p/red5 ). Red5
> is currently a LGPL licensed Software based on Apache Tomcat / Apache MINA
> and Spring. Red5 will change to APL very soon, they already internally
> discussed that some time ago and voted on it:
> 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/red5developers/apache/red5developers/QkwBygXUGM0/KK4uICz0wEsJ
> 
> Dependcies to Red5 API as graphs: Java Web-Start application
> (Screen-Sharing and Recording)
> http://openmeetings.googlecode.com/svn-history/r4162/docs/Red5.webstart.png
> Java Web-Application
> (http://openmeetings.googlecode.com/svn-history/r4162/docs/Red5.webapp.png
> ).
> 
> === Cryptography ===
> OpenMeetings can be deployed using HTTPS and RTMPS (Flash Streaming and
> Remoting over SSL):
> http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/RTMPSandHTTPS
> 
> = Required Resources =
> Subversion Directory: 
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/openmeetings
> 
> Issue Tracking: JIRA (OPENMEETINGS)
> 
> Required Mailing lists: 
> 
>  * openmeetings-user@incubator.apache.org
>  * openmeetings-dev@incubator.apache.org
>  * openmeetings-commits@incubator.apache.org
> 
> Wiki, Webspace: Confluence or similar software where we can integrate our
> current wiki and documentation
> (http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/wiki/MainPage?tm=6)
> 
> Other Resources:
> 
> Continuous integration and Nightly Builds may eventually require hardware
> 
> We are currently hosted on googlecode. There was an option in googlecode
> available to transfer a googlecode project to Apache. We would like to ask
> the hosting staff at Googlecode if they could maybe give us advice how we
> can easily get a copy of our project to import it into the new project
> space at Apache.
> 
> == Initial Committers ==
>  * Sebastian Wagner <seba.wagner at gmail dot com>
>  * Oliver Becherer (smoeker) <ich at oliver-becherer dot name>
>  * Rodion Volkov <volkov.rodion at gmail dot com>
>  * Alexei Fedotov <aaf at apache dot org>
>  * Evgeny Rovinsky <e.rovinsky at gmail dot com>
>  * Maxim Solodovnik < solomax666 at gmail dot com >
>  * Sascha Xander < sascha.xander at googlemail dot com >
>  * Johnny Strom <johnny.strom at osp dot fi>
>  * Eugen Schwert < eugen.schwert at googlemail dot com >
> 
> If any other existing Apache or Openmeetings committers would like to be
> grandfathered into the list then feel free to ask.
> 
> = Sponsors =
> === Champion ===
>  * Andrus Adamchik <aadamchik at apache dot org>
> 
> === Mentors ===
> Volunteers, please.
> 
>  * Alexei Fedotov <aaf at apache dot org>
>  * Jim Jagielski <jim at apache dot org>
>  * Ross Gardler <rgardler at apache dot org>
>  * Yegor Kozlov <yegor at apache dot org>
> 
> === Sponsoring Entity ===
> We would like to ask the Incubator PMC to sponsor Openmeetings.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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