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From "Mattmann, Chris A (388J)" <>
Subject Re: should podlings have informal chairs?
Date Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:58:57 GMT
My 2 cents guys:

We just need to make the Champions informed of what it means to 
have "Champion-ness" :-)

I've Championed 2 proposals so far: 

I just started a thread for Gora on graduating (based on Lewis John McGibbney's
original thread) and I pay attention to Gora and care about its success. Same goes
for Any23. I'm working to get their code brought into the ASF hardware from 
Googlecode, and working to keep them progressing along. 

I'm not perfect as a Champion but I know that in my mind it means more than 
"mentoring". That's not to say I ignore the projects I mentor that I'm not a Champion 
on. It just means that I know that the ones I'm a Champion on deserve a little 
extra of my time.

Regarding make new role names, creating Podling chairs, etc., I think that's just 
reframing the existing role we already have because in my mind, that's what a
Champion already is.


On Nov 21, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:

> If it's to address the awol mentors problem, then sure let's
> do it.  But someone on IPMC has to coach these people on what
> belongs in a proper report, and that has yet to be addressed.
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Ross Gardler <>
>> To:; Joe Schaefer <>
>> Cc: 
>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 12:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: should podlings have informal chairs?
>> On 21 November 2011 16:47, Joe Schaefer <> wrote:
>>> Personally I am against the idea of picking a chair
>>> for a podling early.
>> That's not the proposal, although it was suggested and I believe
>> rejected (for reasons similar to the ones you gave), at least I've not
>> seen any support for it.
>> The proposal is as the subject says "an informal chair". The name
>> seems to have moved to champion in order to avoid any impression of
>> leadership.
>> The responsibilities would be to the Incubator PMC to ensure that the
>> project is progressing rather than struggling with busy elsewhere or
>> inactive mentors.
>> Does your concern extend to this role?
>> Ross
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Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Senior Computer Scientist
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 171-266B, Mailstop: 171-246
Adjunct Assistant Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA

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