----- Original Message -----
> From: Robert Burrell Donkin <robertburrelldonkin@gmail.com>
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Cc: Joe Schaefer <joe_schaefer@yahoo.com>; "kafka-dev@incubator.apache.org" <kafka-dev@incubator.apache.org>
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 3:53 PM
> Subject: Re: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases
>
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J)
> <chris.a.mattmann@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>> On Nov 27, 2011, at 11:21 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Jun Rao <junrao@gmail.com>
>>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>>>> Cc: kafka-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 2:13 PM
>>>> Subject: concerns about high overhead in Apache incubator releases
>>>>
>>>> Dear Apache members,
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>> 2. Different Apache members have different interpretations of the
> same rule.
>>>> It seems that there is no consensus on some of the basic rules even
> among
>>>> Apache members. For example, what constitutes a source distribution
> and
>>>> what should be put in the NOTICE file? Since all it takes is one
> negative
>>>> vote to block a release, this increases the turnover rate of RCs.
>>>
>>> NO. The only time someone can claim to hold a veto over a release vote
> is
>>> when they are jibberjabbering about legal issues. NOTICE errors really
>>> don't risk a lawsuit from anyone, so those -1's are NOT vetoes.
>>
>> If Joe didn't send this reply, I was about to myself. Here's 2 IPMC
> members that
>> *do* agree on this: Joe is right, VETOs do *not* apply to releases of code.
>
> Any legal issue serious enough to VETO a release would require code
> access to be blocked and all discussions taken private. Anything short
> of this isn't a VETO.
I wouldn't go that far. I mean if a podling is trying to ship GPL code or hasn't
completed its IP checklist, it shouldn't be releasing software from the ASF
yet. Those aren't issues that require privacy.
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