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Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 13:49:09 +0000
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Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Graduating empire?
From: Robert Burrell Donkin <robertburrelldonkin@gmail.com>
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On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Rainer D=F6bele <doebele@esteam.de> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> thanks Jukka for your view on this issue and thank you Benson for bringin=
g this topic up.
>
> I am one of the Empire-db committers and certainly we would appreciate it=
 very much if there is a way for us to graduate.
> It is true that we are a small community of around 5 regularly active com=
mitters but at least we're divers (i.e. non related and regionally distribu=
ted) and as far as we can tell from our mailing lists, it looks as there ar=
e a number of users who appriciate our work as they ask questions and give =
us positive feedback.
>
> Personally I would find it very sad if we would not be able to continue s=
taying with the ASF as we kind of feel at home here and everything we do is=
 done the Apache way. The one thing we have failed, is to advertise and mar=
ket our project better. As we all have our jobs to do and no (time) sponsor=
 for this we always rather spent our time improving the code rather than wo=
rking on marekting - and to be honest, being software developers marketing =
is not really our core competence. I would not be surprised if other projec=
ts in the incubator would have similar problems.
>
> Certainly there is no way for us to compete with projects like Subversion=
 or Open Office and there is no way for us to ever get there.
> But I hope that it is not only size that matters.

IMHO 5 diverse, active and regular committers is enough to sustain a TLP

I would be reluctant to graduate small projects before they've
demonstrated sustainability but I think that empire-db has done this.

Robert

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