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From Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org>
Subject Re: timeline of Apache Incubator history
Date Sat, 22 Oct 2011 14:07:02 GMT
On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 12:18 AM, Gavin McDonald <gavin@16degrees.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rob Weir [mailto:robweir@apache.org]
>> Sent: Saturday, 22 October 2011 8:03 AM
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: timeline of Apache Incubator history
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 2:57 AM, David Crossley <crossley@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > Rob Weir wrote:
>> >> David Crossley wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Please see
>> >> > http://incubator.apache.org/history/
>> >> >
>> >> > This is a Timeplot chart of the number of projects handled by the
>> >> > Incubator.
>> >> >
>> >> > The "green" line shows the "Count podlings entered incubation".
>> >> > The "yellow" line shows the "Total podlings currently in incubation".
>> >> >
>> >> > The growth of the yellow line is showing that we do have more
>> >> > podlings entering incubation than graduating/retiring.
>> >> > This is not sustainable.
>> >>
>> >> Are there any stats on mentors over time?
>> >
>> > Not yet, but we could start now. Perhaps could programatically obtain
>> > historical data using svn from the old projects/index.xml file.
>> >
>> > Clutch has been gathering and showing the mentors list at
>> > http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html#mentors
>> >
>> > What statistics were you thinking of?
>> > Perhaps "total number of member/project instances".
>> > Something else?
>>
>> With classrooms, the student-to-teacher ratio is something that is often
>> looked at.  The equivalent would probably be the mentor:PPMC member
>> ratio
>>
>> > Over-committedness index perhaps? :-)
>> >
>>
>> Exactly.
>
> So rather than be congratulatory of Mentors you want these stats to call
> them out for doing too much ? What then, tell them to resign if they are doing
> more than how many projects , 3 , 4 , 7 ?
>

1. Nothing in the stats I proposed would talk about the efforts of any
individual mentor.  It is aggregate information.

2. The natural interpretation would be to highlight when there is an
overall need for more mentors.

3. This could be especially useful as an early warning sign, i.e., a
leading indicator

4. No one can prevent someone from taking statistics and misinterpreting them.

> Far out.
>

See #4.


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>> > -David
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