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From Benson Margulies <bimargul...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Confusion: Sponsoring entity and Champions
Date Sun, 25 Sep 2011 15:54:38 GMT
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Greg Stein <gstein@gmail.com> wrote:
> Board sponsorship equates to mandate: the Incubator PMC has no choice in the
> matter.
>
> We used that for getting an Apache-licensed J2EE server (Geronimo), but we
> did *not* for OOo. We left that decision to the IPMC. I believe the concept
> is obsolete and can be removed from the docs. I do not forsee the Board
> taking such an action in the future.

If my memory serves me, the OO proposal listed the board as the
sponsor, yet we handled it as a decision of the ipmc like any other.
I'm in favor of your idea of removing it from the doc. The board can
always take its fiat out for a drive if some extraordinary
circumstance arises some day.


>
> Cheers,
> -g
> On Sep 20, 2011 4:36 PM, "Benson Margulies" <bimargulies@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The default sponsor is the incubator PMC. if you just put that in a
>> proposal and offer it up, it just happens.
>>
>> Board sponsorship happens for 'special' circumstances (like OO), and I
>> don't pretend to understand why it's important.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz
>> <bdelacretaz@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 5:18 PM, Christian Grobmeier
>>> <grobmeier@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I was looking into that:
>>>>
> http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Sponsor
>>>>
>>>> And thought, if an upcoming podling is deciding to become a TLD it
>>>> should ask the board to sponsor it.
>>>> Now I have been told from Andrus that this is not the case and usually
>>>> the Incubator is sponsoring TLD projects.
>>>
>>> Yes, as I said on the board list I don't remember the board sponsoring
>>> incubating projects recently.
>>>
>>>>...how is the way to have the
>>>> Incubator as a sponsor? Just asking? Just adding to the proposal? ...
>>>
>>> Yes, just add it and people will complain if they see a problem.
>>>
>>>> ...If this is the case, then is "Champion" obsolete? Actually I was
> always
>>>> doubting this role a bit....
>>>
>>> The champion is a person, while the sponsor is a PMC - what makes you
>>> think the champion role is obsolete?
>>>
>>> -Bertrand
>>>
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