Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 02954660E for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 10:24:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 21689 invoked by uid 500); 6 Aug 2011 10:24:11 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-general-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 20817 invoked by uid 500); 6 Aug 2011 10:23:47 -0000 Mailing-List: contact general-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list general@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 20806 invoked by uid 99); 6 Aug 2011 10:23:35 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 06 Aug 2011 10:23:35 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.0 required=5.0 tests=RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW,SPF_NEUTRAL X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (athena.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [83.219.192.166] (HELO smtp.bredband2.com) (83.219.192.166) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Sat, 06 Aug 2011 10:23:26 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.3] (c-83-233-111-19.cust.bredband2.com [83.233.111.19]) (Authenticated sender: ed5133) by smtp.bredband2.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 3BD64209A4 for ; Sat, 6 Aug 2011 12:23:04 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4E3D15FA.8010808@apache.org> Date: Sat, 06 Aug 2011 12:22:50 +0200 From: Dennis Lundberg User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110624 Thunderbird/5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: general@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Apache Rat TLP...? References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 2011-08-05 19:44, Robert Burrell Donkin wrote: > Rat is (now) one of the oldest podlings, and has an unusually high > proportion of experience Apache contributors. The community and code > are small (perhaps too small) for a top level project (TLP). > > Rat tools conceptually run downstream from the build in the continuous > delivery space, assisting comprehension and verification of assembled > source and binary artifacts but. It is natural also to include > bindings for various build systems (to catch problems early) and > generative repair tools within scope. No suitable TLP exists which is > build system and language agnostic. > > So Rat is in limbo. > > There seems to be quite a number of existing unsatisfied related use > cases eg [1][2] here at Apache. I suspect that with the arrival of > OOo, automation is going to become essential and new tools will need > to be developed in a variety of languages. > > In the podling, there is now a rough consensus that graduating to a > new TLP would be the right path. Though the community is currently > small, it could act as a seed for efforts to address these problems > and grow as a home for these tools. > > But before we start to draw up more detailed proposals, I'd like to > take some soundings... > > Opinions? +1 for RAT as a TLP > Robert > > [1] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-rat-dev/201106.mbox/%3CBANLkTikiWPDsipDV9wCG8bGFnW=QWBWHgw@mail.gmail.com%3E > [2] http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/201107.mbox/%3C4E2F098B.7080008@schor.com%3E > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org > > -- Dennis Lundberg --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org